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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Nov 27, 2022.

  1. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    2 excellent posts
     
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    Funnily enough i think exactly the opposite, I don’t think for one minute it would die, why would they let it die? I believe they would promote it more to piss the twats off who’ve left and let them see what a mistake they’ve made. Where do you think approx 200 to 300 thousand fans who love football are going to go every week, sit at home and watch the tv, doubt it very much.I reckon we would have bigger crowds than we’d ever had, where are you going to take the new kids who are growing up, can’t see me saying just taking the bairns to see Real Madrid away. No sorry mate i don’t agree with you at all.
     
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  3. Chunksafc

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    So we keep the super rich clubs, who will take more and more and the gap gets bigger and bigger where 95% of clubs have no chance of winning anything.

    Or the fa/efl/clubs take the initiative and force proper meaningful change for all it's members
     
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    "Arguably" is the word here.

    And it is arguable . It is at least as much Sky and it's relentless hype that generates the cash . They make clubs " cool" .

    Those at the top were not always there, but in the last thirty years the current " big " clubs have instituted law and rule changes which have universally benefited them.

    Sky would hype other teams to the heaven too. And had those super league wannabees been kicked out, a difficult transition would have been worth it.

    The FA, SKY, The Premier League were all , at best naive in handling the issue. It was amongst certainly worse than that.
     
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    Your argument seems to be that we either kick them out into a super league or maintain the status quo.

    No-one is suggesting that maintaining the status quo is the best answer. We're just saying that kicking them all out isn't the answer either and a better solution than both needs to be found.
     
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  6. Chunksafc

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    Unfortunately I'm a realist and the owners of those clubs won't suddenly start doing the right things and divvy the money up fairly.

    The super league will happen eventually so isn't it better to get everything ready for when it does than pander to them in the hope they stay?
     
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  7. King Kareoke

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    As an accountant looking from a distance it horrifies me. Football seems to just be a completely different business to any other
     
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  8. Flash Gordon

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    The owners outside of the big 6 won't suddenly start doing the right things either, so how does this football Utopia magically occur after the super league?

    No-one is suggesting we pander to them either, again you're talking about a status quo which everyone agrees needs reform.

    We need changes in the law to protect our football clubs as institutions. Make it illegal for English clubs to play under any jurisdiction that isn't FA approved. Treat them like listed buildings. There can be no alteration to the club (name, badge, location, stadium, fa they play under) without approval from local and national government. That's the Super League idea gone overnight.

    Then it's about sharing the profits of the game, but that's easier said than done. It's not just the big 6 that want to maintain the status quo. It's like the American dream. Championship clubs are happy with the current situation because they can picture themselves being a rich premier League club. And all the Premier League owners are happy. Crystal Palace owners aren't disappointed that they can't compete, they're happy to take their cut. That's a bigger problem to solve.
     
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  9. Chunksafc

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    For anyone wondering how much money actually filters down to lower leagues I found this article

    http://www.blythspartans.com/news-p...ased-funding-for-non-league-and-womens-clubs/

    £16 million promised in grants to lower league l, non league and women's football according to that article and £177 million in the past 22 years.

    Compare that to how much money the premier league has received in that same period.......
     
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  10. FellTop

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    According to the football foundation that investment is part of the £1.6bn investment planned by the premier league between 2022 to 2025.

    As others have said, I suspect we all want the same thing. Football needs a very different model to allow it to thrive, the super league is not the answer IMO. Over and out, footy is on.
     
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  11. Essayyeffcee

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    And that was basically the main reason the Premier League was formed. The so called top 6 at the time decided that they were the reason football was popular and they wanted a bigger share and sod the rest of the league. 30 years down the road and nothing has changed
     
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  12. Chunksafc

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    The football foundation is a joint venture between, the Premier League, the FA and Sport England.

    It would be interesting to know which much the premier league actually contribute to the £1.6 billion of investment mentioned above
     
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  13. Gil T Azell

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    I wasnt aware it had increased <laugh>.
     
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    I’m thinking what if we were one of the chosen teams, that would leave around 40,000 fans with bugger all to do on a Saturday. I reckon around 4/5000 of them would go to the pool to watch a match so they can still have their day out. Pool would pick up a £100,000 X 23, £2.3 million a season. I’m sure they would be pissed off that we told the big six to piss off, and that would be happening everywhere a big club got the boot, all the smaller clubs would be getting bigger gates. That’s how you help the lower leagues.
     
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    How would the fans have bugger all to do? Why wouldn't Liverpool fans just watch Liverpool play Real Madrid at Anfield instead of Crystal Palace?
     
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    That’s a good point<laugh>
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    I think familiarity would breed contempt to be honest.

    Real Madrid fans would soon stop going to Liverpool and vice versa.

    It would become even more fake than it already is imo.
     
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    If it did happen, what would happen is they wouldn't be able to play in this and that cup, but much like the Golf, imo bit by bit the live golfers will be allowed back into the likes of the open and tour, basically they'll have there cake and eat it too. Same thing would happen with the likes of the Champions Leauge. I remember when Man U opted out of the FA Cup to play in some daft club World Cup and were told they wouldn't be allowed in the FA Cup again,a year later they were back.
     
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    Not sure that is right mate. As far as I remember they only Opted out for the one season?
     
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  20. Jme

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    Im all for being completely radically restructuring back to how it all started as local teams.. make the sky money equal for all 92 league clubs , squad to be built only from people born within 50 miles ( maybe allow a couple of strangers) except London 5 miles. They can keep all home revenue and all sponsorship goes into a central pot to be spent on non league , women and kids game and stadia... maximum wages and any extra goes to a pension for when they end playing.. don't think this will catch on like but hey oh .
     
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