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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Nov 27, 2022.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    "Liverpool have held discussions with two consortiums from Saudi Arabia and Qatar over a £3billion takeover. Both consortiums are thought to have close links with their country's ruling families."
     
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    Annnnnd the rich get richer.

    I don't like Liverpool anyway, so this just adds to it.
     
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    And if that happens, you can see the loser going after Man Utd
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    As with Newcastle they'll claim the State isn't the buyer.

    They'll say it's 'an investment group'.

    Let's be truthful here Liverpool, at £3 billion, aren't any kind of investment.

    Putting that money in a Post Office savings account would give you a better return <laugh>
     
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  5. Chunksafc

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    When Liverpool and Man Utd get taken over by the Saudis, it should increase the pace of the super league. Hopefully before next season starts.....

    Theres already enough teams to get it going if you think about it -

    Mags
    Man City
    PSG
    Liverpool
    Man Utd
    Chelsea
    Lille (I think have middle East money)
    Real Madrid
    Barca
    Juventus
    AC Milan
    Inter

    Add in the 2 Red Bull Teams (as the owners wouldn't want to miss out
    Then Arsenal, Spurs would want in so that's 16, maybe a couple from Portugal and Turkey and your not far off a 20 league team without the need for the proper German teams and the need to appease the fans on the board.
     
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  6. Iain

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    Let them go mate as long as they aren't allowed to compete in any other competition they'll soon get bored. It would make the champions league more interesting with different teams in it.
    What would their aim be, other than trying to win the league, finishing second wouldn't qualify you for any other competitions, if half way through the season you can't win the league you may as well give up because you won't get relegated.
    As for the fans, away days will be mainly a no go as you will only have 3 a season in your own country if your lucky.
    As long as the major football authorities make a stand and make sure any team or player joining the super league is not allowed to rejoin any other league or team it will soon fizzle out.
     
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    Happy for them to go with sky as well. Maybe we will get our game back .
     
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  8. Chunksafc

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    I fully agree mate, if they are going to do it then they need to go knowing they can't come back or play in both.

    The rest of us can get on with resetting the leagues and the game properly, FFP can be properly implemented and policed and a TV deal that doesn't **** over the fans like the current one
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    Perfectly summed up.
     
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    I think it would be a horrendous outcome for all of us mate, honestly do. Any kind of breakaway league must be resisted at all costs. The game in this country is not what I would choose, but it would only go one way if this happened and clubs like ours would never progress or dream again. It would destroy the entire basis of our football pyramid and the grassroots game would be in massive doubt. The consequences would be terminal I think. I dont think it will happen fortunately. We have already seen the reactions of supporters of these clubs, they want no part of it.
     
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  11. Chunksafc

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    Now you have me curious. Why would those clubs breaking away and going off to play in their closed shop result in the terminal decline of football?

    A fairer distribution of money across the leagues, the clear fact any club could make a first of becoming successful and not having to have the wealth of a country behind it and that's just off the top of my head
     
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    Need more time for a full response mate. Will do so this week. A lot of it is money though. If we lose say the top 4 or 5 clubs in this country the premier league will lose around 50% of its sponsorship revenue iny opinion, possibly more. The best players wont be here so the levels drop, and in a pyramid that is just a domino effect, both in money and in ability levels. When it hits grassroots, already under funded, the impact will be tough.
     
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    This will only happen if EUEFA, FIFA and the FA wish it. They might of course; stuffed brown paper envelopes can be very persuasive.

    But, if they chose, they could ban all breakaway clubs from their competitions. No Champions League. No Euros. No World Cup.

    I wonder how many of the " top players" would want to say goodbye to that, and instead play in what would essentially be an invitation tournament. A footballing gang of Harlem Globetrotters.

    But if course EUEFA , FIFA, and the national bodies are fantastically useless and corrupt, so certain clubs will get what they want, then more of what they want, and then more. Crumbs will fall to the rest.

    Football is eating itself, and the greedier bit is getting hungrier by the day.
     
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  14. Chunksafc

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    Im curious how much money actually flows down the leagues and into grass roots from the premier league as from where I sit it doesn't appear much and the gap between the haves and have nots gets bigger every year.

    As for the best players going off with the super league clubs? That happens now anyway so it's not really a consideration in my humble opinion.

    Sponsorship money and tv money drops, so then do wages and agent fees etc, clubs will have to do what every other business do and engage with other revenue streams, promote the business in the local and wider areas. As opposed to now where they are massively dependent on TV money.

    To the vast majority of football fans from the bottom half of the premier league down to non league, football is broken, the gap is getting wider and with every club sale or new TV deal it gets bigger for the benefit of a tiny elite few. Football needs a reset and if the so called big 6/7 have to bugger off for it to happen then so be it
     
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    The jordee saudi nashcun will be foamin' when the £300bn that was definitely all going to be spent on transfers is suddenly divided between 3 clubs, 2 of which have far grander histories than that shower of ****s
     
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    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    100% gonna happen that like
     
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    They will be foaming if 3 bn is spent buying Liverpool when it could have been spent on them!
     
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    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    They will absolutely buy Man Utd and Liverpool - daft boris opened the door
     
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    PSG didn't want to be in the Super League last time. There's no certainty at all the Middle East owners want a super league. It's the Americans driving that.

    As for the idea of a fairer system, that won't happen. First of all, the revenue streams will fall off a cliff. That might be fine in the long run, but in the short term, dozens of teams will go to the wall. Those that are left will want as much money as they can get their hands on to survive. Leeds, Leicester, Villa, West Ham etc will become the new giants and they'll want a greater portion of the pie. Their owners won't care about Dover Athletic or Hartlepool going bust. They'll have never heard of these clubs. More money only goes down the pyramid when more money is coming into the game.
     
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  20. Chunksafc

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    It's a fair point, but I don't think revenue streams would necessarily fall of a cliff.

    English football is still popular across the world, admittedly it might not attract the huge sums it does now, but it would attract a decent amount and from various sources. Whoever misses out on the Super League TV rights isn't just going to give up on football coverage, they will move onto the next one down.

    Would it be a bad thing if more football was shown on terrestrial TV? As opposed to now where you need 27 different subscriptions?

    Look at the autumn internationals in the rugby, been on all month, yet hardly mentioned or noticed in the press as it's shown on Amazon Prime.

    As for owners not caring about Hartlepool or Dover etc going bust, they don't care now and won't care either way.
     
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