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Perhaps Boris and his advisors saw a split in the Tory party was inevitable if he had got back in. That allied to the 's**t storm' of policies coming without a political choice over the next 2 or may be 5 years is bound to make any leader unpopular, the last thing Popularist needs.. Can't have Boris with a crushed ego..
 
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This meme should go down well on here <laugh>
 

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saintrichie123 said:
Bravo <applause>

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At a certain point, we have to accept that the country is full and will get considerably worse with more & more people coming into it. I don’t think we are there yet, as the data shows that immigration is a bet benefit.

But personally, I can understand why a lot of people are angry about paying for tens of thousands of people to stay in hotels all around the country whilst everything around them rockets up in price.

Unfortunately immigration is the easy scapegoat for all of the country’s issues.
 
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Osvaldorama said:
At a certain point, we have to accept that the country is full and will get considerably worse with more & more people coming into it. I don’t think we are there yet, as the data shows that immigration is a bet benefit.

But personally, I can understand why a lot of people are angry about paying for tens of thousands of people to stay in hotels all around the country whilst everything around them rockets up in price.

Unfortunately immigration is the easy scapegoat for all of the country’s issues.
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Just remind people of the facts. We take less than practically every other country per head of population. Plus, we are short of hundreds of thousands of nurses, doctors, police officers, fruit pickers, bar staff, builders, butchers, bakers, candle stick makers, and short order cooks. We are nowhere near full. We need immigration, and the asylum seekers are being used by the Tories to stir up hatred, because that is all they have left to offer this country.
 
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ChilcoSaint said:
Just remind people of the facts. We take less than practically every other country per head of population. Plus, we are short of hundreds of thousands of nurses, doctors, police officers, fruit pickers, bar staff, builders, butchers, bakers, candle stick makers, and short order cooks. We are nowhere near full. We need immigration, and the asylum seekers are being used by the Tories to stir up hatred, because that is all they have left to offer this country.
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I accept the point on how short we are in many professions. But there also appears to be a housing crisis. I’m not sure that particular crisis is all down to the Tories. But certainly hasn’t been helped by them
 
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Gregm1988 said:
I accept the point on how short we are in many professions. But there also appears to be a housing crisis. I’m not sure that particular crisis is all down to the Tories. But certainly hasn’t been helped by them
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In 2019, the last year for which I can find statistics, there were 425,000 empty residential properties in England alone, plus nearly 150,000 empty commercial properties suitable for conversion into homes. Since 2010 when the Tories were elected, there have been planning permissions granted for 1.2 million homes which have not yet been built.

Yes, there is a housing crisis, but the solutions are easily found.
 
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Gregm1988 said:
I accept the point on how short we are in many professions. But there also appears to be a housing crisis. I’m not sure that particular crisis is all down to the Tories. But certainly hasn’t been helped by them
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Thatcher's right to buy council houses and prohibiting the use of funds raised for building new was a major contributor to current housing problems. Tory election pledges to build homes have been a total failure since they came into power.
 
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StJabbo1 said:
Thatcher's right to buy council houses and prohibiting the use of funds raised for building new was a major contributor to current housing problems. Tory election pledges to build homes have been a total failure since they came into power.
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I am still waiting for the “right to buy the house you are renting” to be extended to include houses owned by property companies, but we all know that it will never happen.
I am sure that I once read a report in which a councillor was complaining about how the government charges a higher rate of interest to councils that borrow money to build council houses, than they would charge if the loan was for other purposes. To afford the increased interest payments would mean cutting funding for a local service.
To paraphrase Cameron and Osborne “ council housing breeds Labour voters”.
 
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Think you could just have simply said it as “people in council houses breed, and therein lies the issue”
 
San Tejón said:
I am still waiting for the “right to buy the house you are renting” to be extended to include houses owned by property companies, but we all know that it will never happen.
I am sure that I once read a report in which a councillor was complaining about how the government charges a higher rate of interest to councils that borrow money to build council houses, than they would charge if the loan was for other purposes. To afford the increased interest payments would mean cutting funding for a local service.
To paraphrase Cameron and Osborne “ council housing breeds Labour voters”.
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Interesting from the Local Government Association.
https://www.local.gov.uk/topics/housing-and-planning/council-housing-100/future-council-housing
From the Guardian re interest rates.
"The government has been accused of “trashing” plans to build more social housing across the UK after it imposed a shock interest rate rise on cheap Treasury loans."
https://www.theguardian.com/society...used-wrecking-plans-build-more-social-housing
 
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I see the Tory MP, Gillian Keegan, is still spouting the bullshit that most people using food banks are only using them because of “something having broken down - a relationship or boiler”.
And whilst she is spouting this bullshit she is, allegedly, wearing a £10k Rolex watch.
Too thick to get it, or just doesn’t care? Or both.
 
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