That would take much longer. Nothing wrong with it being reviewed from afar but it shouldn't be carried out by the referees buddy. VAR team should be completely separate to the refereeing team. And the audio of both teams (referees & VAR) should be aired live too.
I cannot remember this much controversy during the Euro’s tbh. Perhaps my memory is bad but if I recall, there were far fewer incidents with VAR. Will be interesting to see how it is executed in the World Cup. I’d bet that the FA and PGMOL have complicated this no end.
the norm sees to be a quickish check and if that doesn't show an obvious error they just call play on .
IMO rugby plays this well but is more naturally suited to taking the time as you've conversions to come and they routinely stop for big set plays. However..... thats being said for a corner, pen, thorw in (ridiculously long) goal kick and free kick football does take quite a while to get set up. A free kick can take 2 mins to get set up based on big men trundling up the park or setting up a wall including one lad having a kip on the gorund behind the wall etc But anyway..... rugby. sometimes if a ref is sure he sticks his hand up and awards the try. he's rarely contradicted. If he's unsure he gives the set piece question. "any reason to not award the try? or "on field decision is try" please check X and the person goes off and shows x on the big screens. Everyone on the planet can hear the question and response. rarely you see the ref, lino and 4th offical talk through something and review a few ties. all open and honest. why is this culture not applied to football? We find refs pointing to ears abdicating any responsibility to fob off footballers running up and shouting at them. we get zero explanation as to why a ref has decided something is not a foul or is one. Perhaps they don't want to admit that its far more guess work due to the state of the rules? "enough force" blah blah blah. We then get zoro explanation from VAR, zero listening in on the chat and no idea whats going on. Surely to fix this its as simple as this: Let the ref call a screen icon if he himself is unsure and let him review video if he sees fit. fine refs who don't use this. Give each manager 2 reviews. If they choose to waste them on nothing or use to break up play thats their issue. Make the ref state their on field call before the review and then see exactly what was seen or not seen. Mike up refs are REQUIRE full and frank discussion of issue in front of public. Clearly state the final ruling and why for all to digest. then stat to drop refs who are inconsistent with the prevailing rules. one ref who says something is handball and 10 others say its not. well if that one ref doesn't get in line he drops down a division. For example: joe gomez V forest. It had to be close to a red. Was it reviewed? Did the ref offer an opinion? was the position of ball, gk, vvd checked at all? forest don't care now but if we didn't brainfatt that goal and went on to win 1-0 off a set piece they would have cared. the bourmentoh manager really cares this morning. Now a ref might say vvd had 5 yards sat here. might say is miles from goal... who knows but its one that if that ref pulled a red var was never over turning unless klopp has a review. Would forest have wastd a review to turn this red? Probably but at least they'd know. how is this not a pen but this is
the europeans are not as arrogant or dismissive of the tools and let it go. the only thing we get is English based players furiously screaming at linos to flag (which btw they've now won in england as well)
Separate as in no communication at all or the VAR is not a friend of the referee? Communication is key or otherwise the pitch referee will have no idea what the issue is or how certain VAR is. These days, VAR makes THE decision. When he’s not certain he let the play go on. When he’s sure he asks the referee to review. So when the ref goes to thr monitor the whole world knows what he’ll do. Almost a waste of time. Might as well go with the decision of VAR like an offside, because the ref will almost certainly not override the VAR.
so it’s down to ego then? If that is so, it’s time fir a radical shake of the officiating in this country
I don't know but there's an element of resistance to even having it still and "being different" to the rest of UEFA and FIFA in that we've now decides that Anthony Taylor can let every blatant foul go "to make the game better" so rather than giving advantage or allowing the game to flow we allow rampant fouling and pulling as that's "manly" or something. The english refs have decided that a "higher threshold" is in order and that its now fine to flag off some situations instantly especially when it benefits an big team. none of it really makes any sense.
because that what the media and public kept asking for rather than all contact was a foul and it is nice to see defenders take a risk by just falling to the ground and grabbing ball as the ref may not give the the FK which was pretty much guaranteed the last few years . The problem with VAR is football decisions are often very subjective and therefore no definitive right answer .
All this don't blow for every little thing - at the weekend one of our players was fouled in our own box but jumped up and a fast break was on, the ball had even cleared the halfway line and the ref blew and called play all the way back to just outside the box. What happened to playing the advantage? It's hard not to think that there's an agenda and it's really no fun watching a game with conspiracy theory in mind.
There is a direct contradiction with that tedious term 'clear and obvious' How can you be looking at a piece of footage back and forth 10 times, slowing it down to a tenth of the speed for 2 minutes and then making the call? It's embarrassing tbh - if you can't figure it out in real time after say 2 replays, then the original decision stands. I believe the above prompts referees to let something go too as "VAR will have a look anyway" - this isn't what it was ever intended for.
I don't understand why VAR, having called the ref to look at the screen, doesn't show him multiple angles of the contentious act. One angle can make it look like handball, for example, but the reverse angle shows that it absolutely wasn't and vice versa.
Becuase it's purely a gesture, could show him a clip of Emmerdale tbh, he's going to overturn the original decision.
This was deemed not handball and while the title isn't won in one minute in one game, the correct decision here providing the penalty is scored, means we win the league. That's how fine the margins are now.
The way VAR is done here you would have thought it was as complicated as a project to send people to Mars. It’s simple and we just need some bloody common sense to make it work properly.
