Rather sad times

I'm all for backing your players but its sad that in 2011 we get Chelsea fans chanting about Anton, if what he says is true what exactly has he done wrong?

I come from an age when every village had a Pa...ie shop, the chiniese was the ch..y and every racist term was common place. But even an old fossile like me has caught up with the times and through all of the time Anton played for us I can honestly say I never thought of the colour of his skin, did you?

Racist are still around, we all know that, we have them on here and we know that, however, last night those Chelsea fans did us no favours, a sad reflection on the many decent football fans.

 

Sad as it is racism is part of the human condition and you will always get racists no matter how hard you try to eliminate them from anywhere not just football. All we can do is ignore them, mock them and shun them from society until they realise it is wrong and not an appropriate way to act.

I honestly couldnt care about the colour of someones skin i'm from a diffrent generation to you and it just dosent register to judge someone by their skin colour, I just dont see how it matters.

 

Agreed

 

- The Dalai Lama.

Racism is basically projected hate, it's not logical nor in any way beneficial -above all else it's just ****ing weird

 

And it was never meant as a racist insult, its just what everyone said, now its suddenly racist, my parents still use them terms and no offence is meant at all.

 

The colour of skin doesnt make a difference, but people make such a big deal of not making a deal out of it that people are still aware of it - (if that makes sense to anyone apart from myself, I'll be happy)

If it doesnt make a difference, the why do people get more shocked if someone calls someone else a black dickhead, instead of just a dickhead? its the dickhead part that should be insulting not the black part.

We should be able to use the adjective "black" the same way as we use the words tall, bald, short etc. Surely being so uptight about using words describing colour of skin just adds fuel to the fire?

of course, the truly racist chanting that we sometimes hear is a disgrace -there is a big difference in using black as a description and saying "all blacks should be shot" or whatever.

Hope I am making some kind of sense.

 

You are to me

Blackboard = Chalk board
White board = Electronic board
Baa Baa Black sheep = Baa Baa Raindow sheep now in schools. (wouldnt mind if there was such a thing as a rainbow sheep but there isnt)

its political corectness gone mad.

I was talking to one of my staff the other day about it who is American, and he couldnt believe it when i told him the above, he was like, hope we never go down that route.

 

I didn't even know the guy was black. That's how little I've seen him play.

 

Not quite mate. Only one school opted for Rainbow Sheep (on the grounds that it was more 'educational') and everything else has been exaggerated by the media. For the most part, little has changed.

And interactive/electronic boards are called that because they are now electronic and require a digital pen with a projector to project the drawings on the board. It has to differ from a normal white board in that sense.

 

Well said, catsteve!!

 

my daughter sings rainbow sheep at school, so unless she is in that 1 school (i doubt it) then its more than 1 school that sings it.

a Blackboard is still a bloody blackboard though, i dont care about the whiteboard lol call it whiteboard if they want doesnt bother me at all.

 

I'm sorry but the pxxi shop, cxxxxes, blackboard, man hole cover etc etc remain firmly in my daily language and always will.

None of the above are intended to insult, belittle or slur the recipients so why should I be ashamed of them. They are descriptive words used to describe places or objects in daily use.

Over the years, I have befriended and worked with a diverse section of society and many different colours and at no point have any of these words offended, or upset those people. Indeed the language and insults they use to each other is far, far worse imo.

It is the liberate in this country and other western governments that constantly **** themselves over this issue and by making this issue an arrestable offence now for ordinary people, it is alienating these ethnic minorities even further and actually feeding the ultra right wing right propaganda across Europe. That's the huge concern surely not the use of some words by moderate ordinary people.

No to racism but yes to realism.

 

I actually sort of agree with you. I don't mind people using certain words to describe people in a joking matter or whatever because at the end of the day they are only words. The problem occurs when people actually discriminate against a certain race which imo is what people should be looking at.

 

It's the intent behind the words. Going to pxxxs for a bottle of milk is hardly racist doctrine is it? Nor is going to the cxxxxs or Indians for my tea.

We have to stop all this daft nonsense before a bigger wedge is driven between all communities. There really will be an up and them scenario if the pc brigade are not themselves kept in check with reality. It's forcing moderate people to choose one side or another.

That's a terrible situation to be in for all concerned.

 

**** me i agree with you again. I think i'm ill . I get the sense like you that the PC brigade do drive a wedge between us and put emphasis on the differences between communities rather than what they have in common. I 100% get what you mean, having chxxxes for tea is hardly derogatory. People do need to be careful that they don't start to develop prejudices and never use words like that in a derogatory way because it can quickly turn into real discrimination.

 

I think you mean unspecifieddomesticatedanimalsteve.

 

I agree that much of the terminology that is now somehow classed as racist is political correctness gone mad...I think that rainbow sheep mullarky is just on the discretion of a very small minority of head teachers, who have took this far to far.
However, the allegations against Terry (if proved to be true) are a disgrace, and in my opinion he should be then thrown out of the game.

 

I know what you mean Cest and see you use the words in full to prove a point. I sort of agree but, there is always a but. The reason we have many rules in life, like not using those words, is not for the majority who dont intend to offend but the minority who do.

Very small compared to the big picture but if a rcist now comes on and uses lets say the N word but says he did not intend offence, just like Cest did not, then the slippery slope begins. Its very sad but then the whole topic is. BTW, I choose not to use those words because even though I would not intend offense I would be concerned I did offend.

 

I have malaysian relatives, one of them grew up as a little girl being referred to as 'chink' by the other kids in her class on pretty much a daily basis, sometimes as an insult and other times just to refer to who she was. Went on for years and she was really upset by it despite being too young to care about negative/neutral connotations of word usage. It had been used negatively towards her enough for her to find its neutral usage upsetting. Regardless of how long you've been using a phrase, if it grows out of favour because people it is directed at find it offensive, then you have to accept that your using it is offensive. I'm presuming you wouldn't refer to the black couple down the street as 'the negroes' but that was perfectly normal decades ago.
Just forget about political correctness and government trends for a second (we all agree that people take some stuff way too far 'gone mad' and all that - blackboard et all), some phrases just aren't acceptable in common usage anymore for a reason.

 

I am sorry but to still use Pxxi, Chxxxe or any form of derogatory remark like that even in a supposedly non offensive way is still stupid! I appreciate that 95% of people are not racist and some come from an age where those terms were more common place but times have moved on. However to call someone a black so and so or a brown so and so is no worse than calling someone a fat/bald/ugly/skinny so and so..... If you get what I mean.