Vettel the next " great " driver ?

Tread difference?

 

Well I can't see anything wrong with that statement, how have we not noticed this

 

So I guess Ambrosio is a better driver than Kubica since he was nearly 2 seconds faster than his qualifying pace...

And Sam Bird should be in that Mercedes rather than Schumacher since he was 1.3 seconds faster than a 7 time World champion...

 

Again flawless logic, the same logic that somehow still keeps Yuji Ide out of a F1 seat....

 

Not another Vettel love fest thread after another easy win "Bangs head against brick wall in despair".

 

The test for Vettel comes when the tides turn, when he finds himself 4th-6th in qualifying despite extracting everything out of the car through a season.

 

Welll you pick a ****ing driver to talk about then!

Jeez, there's only so many on the grid worthtalking about!

 

you mean like when he was with STR?

 

If that's the case, Vettel is already there, along with Alonso. Vettel is possibly the quickest driver ever over a single lap, and Alonso's talents need no repeating.

 

I'm starting to get the feeling you don't like me very much allsaintchris

 

I'd like to add a picture, nothing really to add.

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What's this to do with Seb's "greatness"?

 

as someone who watched all off schumachers career... well he was better than prost anyday so bang goes that theory.

people need only see how many races he won in that terrible early ferrari to know what i mean.

For me senna is the pinacle, prost, fangio and others cam claim it but schumacher is the best of the rest behind senna.

anyway.... alonso. great? yes? cheat? for sure. deliberate crashes by team mate to get a win and mcclarengate put an even bigger shadow than any anti schumacher tirade could. Ok senna and prost hammered into each other too and i think maybe they'd stoop to the lows if they got the chance as well. For me alonso could have been a great but then so could have kimi.... we'll see in the next 5 years.

Vettel has eliminated errors from his resume so i think he could in theory be the next great but he needs a rival to both push him and make him look as good as he may well be. Ie he's got to beat guys not only from the front but from hard racing too.

 

lets see him in a few more cars first, he's good but hasn't really done anything that other drivers on the grid haven't done in dominant cars. He hardly blew away the competition in the junior formulas where he didn't have a car advantage.

 

There are car advantages in lower formula. And I can point to one driver who was given them all through his career.

 

Sebastian:

Key:
???=Unknown result since he never finished/fully entered the series.

2003- BMW ADAC, Rookie year. (2nd) Team Eifelland Racing Note! *A basic entry team*

2004- BMW ADAC ,2nd year. (1st) Team ADAC Berlin-Brandenburg Note! *There only win in that series ever!*

2005- Formula 3, Rookie year. (5th) Team ASL Mücke Motorsport Note! *Same team but different name*
Macau GP, Rookie. (3rd) Team ASM F3 Note! *Now in top team with lower series*
Williams test driver.

2006- Formula 3, 2nd year. (2nd) Team ASM Formule 3 Note! *Sebastian's finger is nearly sliced off (almost career ending) halfway through the season. He was the only driver able to win back to back races with grid reversal rule now in place to stop top teams dominating like last year. NO MORE UNLIMITED TESTING FOR RICHER TEAMS! Being a test driver for BMW and doing other series was also taking it's toll through the season*
BMW Test driver.
Formula Masters. (6th) Team ASM Formule 3. Note! *A Week after the injury*
Formula 3.5 Series, Rookie. ??? Team Carlin Motorsport . Note! *Entered only 3 races midway and got a 1st and 2nd in the first 2 he entered, he was injured during this series*

2007- Formula Renault 3.5 series, 2nd year. ??? Team Carlin Motorsport. Note! First 7 races he was leading the series but had to leave to replace Kubica after Canada, his F1 future began after RBR see he is ready for F1.
BMW- Qualified 7th, Race 8th...at the age of 19 with no chance to get ready after being called up last minute.

 

Your second sentence

 

Vettels F1 records


Vettel, enjoying considerable success in the sport whilst still relatively young, holds the following Formula One records:

Record / Achieved

• Most championship points earned in a season / 2011 (30 October 2011, 374 points)
• Most starts from front row in a season / 2011 (29 October 2011, 16 front row starts)
• Most laps led in a season / 2011 (30 October 2011, 711 laps led)
• Most wins from pole position in a season / 2011 (30 October 2011, 9 wins from pole position)
• Youngest driver to drive at a Grand Prix meeting / 2006 Turkish Grand Prix (25 August 2006, aged 19 years, 53 days)
• Youngest driver to set fastest time in an official Grand Prix session / 2006 Turkish Grand Prix (25 August 2006, aged 19 years, 53 days)
• Youngest driver to score points in Formula One / 2007 United States Grand Prix (17 June 2007, aged 19 years, 349 days)
• Youngest race leader in Formula One, for at least one lap / 2007 Japanese Grand Prix (30 September 2007, aged 20 years, 89 days)
• Youngest Grand Prix pole position winner / 2008 Italian Grand Prix (13 September 2008, aged 21 years, 72 days)
• Youngest driver to score a podium position in Formula One / 2008 Italian Grand Prix (14 September 2008, aged 21 years, 73 days)
• Youngest Grand Prix winner / 2008 Italian Grand Prix (14 September 2008, aged 21 years, 73 days)
• Youngest driver to score a double (pole position and race win) / 2008 Italian Grand Prix (14 September 2008, aged 21 years, 73 days)
• Youngest Formula One World Drivers' Champion / 2010 season (14 November 2010, aged 23 years, 135 days)
• Youngest World Drivers' Championship runner-up / 2009 season (1 November 2009, aged 22 years, 121 days)
• Youngest driver to score a triple (pole position, race win, and fastest lap) / 2009 British Grand Prix (aged 21 years, 353 days)
• Youngest driver to score a grand chelem (pole position, win, fastest lap, and led every lap) / 2011 Indian Grand Prix (aged 24 years, 119 days)
• Shortest time elapsed before gaining a penalty / 2007 United States Grand Prix (6 seconds into his career, for speeding in the pit lane)

 

To be fair I did say I had nothing to add, I just liked the picture. It was on a story about Justin Bieber, just don't ask why I was reading a story about Justin Beiber (he does look alot like Vettel)