Match Day Thread Liverpool v Crystal Palace

Do you seriously think Klopp would let him get away with it if it were Trent's decision to play elsewhere?

 

Given robertson was making runs into cf I can only conclude there is come instruction to this effect.

Not running back is un acceptable. Standing about not.miving is not acceptable.

 

Again, do you think Klopp would let him get away with it if he's not following instruction?

 

Fit girls are a man's game?

 

He seems to be letting him right away with it.

As I said, first half for 20mins he's wide and creating. Next 20misn he's coming in and in, nothing happening. Second half he's doing anything but the basics.

If you only wanna blame klopp fair enough.

 

It’s amazing TAA has disobeyed klopps instructions to not come inside for season and half now? And still hasn’t told him to stop doing it or dropped him from the squad

Or maybe, as klopp has said publicly they want him in those areas as feel he offers more from there.

 

It's not about blaming anyone, Trent wouldn't be allowed to do it if it wasn't part of the plans

 

I loath the really high line we play but i don't think it is done because VVD decides to it .

 

That's fundamental to our entire game plan though.

How is trent wndering infield fundamental?

I have no issue in a broken play scenario where he runs and makes the extra man and someone like Henderson draws a player to allow the sapce.

Standing infield stock still contributing nothing when we are playing 10men back, in the vain hope maybe of hitting a shot or whatever.... that's never working.

Imo it's stupid and counter productive.

Stay wide, great the sauce for forwards to run the channels between defenders

 

as we keep saying you need to convince Klopp not us .

PS great the sauce

 

Space, no idea how bad that was spelled to autocorrect to that.

 

well yes i'm so used to Mitoese i actually read it as create the space then my brain went

 

I live the high line. Agree VVD isn't the one that decides we play that way but he's certainly a massive reason for it

 

The high line is fundamental as I said.

So is high intensity press. Look at the goal we conceded. Fabinho ran past the guy cos he was focused not on dropping off the guy but getting in fast and trying to win it. Trent again was trotting about not really closing or doing much of anything tbh.

The high line enables players in midfielder to go higher and make the hunting back or 3 and 4 players round that ball.

I've no issue with us knocking it about at the back and trent racing off into a space a player has made by dropping deep nor do I mind him joining breaks etc. That's broken play chaos where we thrive.

I'll keep saying it... when teams are set he simply hasn't the skils to move and make play. He's stood infield doing nothing and 90% of the time we are seeing an isolated player finally recieve it out on the right thwt player will simply knock it backwards to the cbs or fabinho amd we keep playing in front.

Fundamentally when a team is set the space will be side and the overlap is far more effective than other tactics to turn that defence. Once we get behind trent has his pick of balls and can create chances, but he has to make those wide runs.

If he wants to run infield and draw the fullback so henderson amd make the overlap to the space fine.... but that's not happening either is it.

 

But it does happen a lot more when Elliott plays in that rcm position. He drifts out wide, allows space for TAA inside and Salah to come in while still having someone on the touch line.

 

They need to move themselves. If they don't its easy to mark. Drift if you draw a man with you.

We are also seeing a guy in 20 yards space but 2 passes slowly in front and trent sotto there watching it. Elliott left foot. Never going outside. Salah left foot again never going outside. They all get isolated and there's no back pass.

On the other side we have a different issue. When is the last time we have seen a genuine robbo over lap run? That triangle of passes seems.in trouble to me as well. We are not getting behind effectively.

 

We've not done that for at least two years

 

Yes we have.

There's a difference between chasing round like.lunatics at 90mph after giving the ball away every 30seconds and having a high intensity win the ball back press after trying to hang onto the ball for 5minutes.

Our team still swarms the ball trying to win it back high up.

 

We did all those things when we played a high line difference is now the high line is on the halfway line and with the FB's , particularly Trent , pushed forward imo it is fairly easy to pay a killer ball even with the press .

 

We're building around a midfield which is constantly unsettled and imbalanced.

It's 2022 and we're still starting James Milner - you only have to look at this average position vs Palace to see how high he was which left Fab completely isolated. Which isn't bad per se because we're at home to Palace so we should be more aggressive.

Fab isn't at his best at the moment but he's still our best midfielder. He needs support.

Elliot was excellent and I really want to see him getting more mins at RCM.

Robbo really needs dropping now. He has not developed any link with Diaz but also his passing and offensive play in general is just so wasteful these days.