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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Lovearsenalcock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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  3. redwhiteandermblue

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    It's no good saying after the match, but I looked at the lineup, then looked at the odds, which heavily favored Man U over Brentford, and went on a what the f rant. To paraphrase: "Last week Man U lost to a club that looked like it had a plan and a will to follow it when they had neither at home. This week they play a similar club away, and they're heavily favored?"

    The idea of getting a ten Hag is to train a young team to play in a certain energetic style. It looks like ten Hag was either told or decided to play the same old pseudo-galacticos, with predictable results. He needs a talented, tough DM, a young striker who can score, a commanding CB, and at least one top young FB/WB. He got an undersized CB and a veteran #10 instead.

    It's just barely possible ten Hag let this happen to show how desperately Man U need incomings and outgoings.
     
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  4. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I heard an interview yesterday where it was said that ten Hag got the job precisely because he said that he could utilise a large part of the existing squad in his team...which ran contrary to Rangnick's view that 10 of the current squad weren't fit for purpose.

    If that's true, ten Hag is cast as Mourinho or Nuno, rather than Conte...just as their DoF John Murtough, is very much Steve Hitchen, as opposed to Rangnick's Fabio Paratici.

    Basically, United's owners don't want to accept that they've wasted a ****ing fortune on players who just don't cut it...and aren't going to do so. Equally, the Glazers aren't going to be fronting up the cash to build a new or meaningfully updated stadium. They're currently stuck in repeating the same mistakes and appointing 'yes men' to tell them that it's the right thing to do.

    Long may it coninue.
     
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  5. Left on the Shelf

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    I'm wondering if Eriksen is regretting his decision already....<doh>
     
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  6. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    3 year contract on £10m a year...after a massive signing on fee?

    Hr went for the money and he'll get it. Any regrets would be crocodile tears.
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

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    If he got his Covid jab he could've come back to Spurs...
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Craziest thing is de Boer, **** sorry, ten Hag, looked absolutely broken.

    Two games into the job and he had similar looks about him as Poch did in his final month or two with us.

    A part of me has a degree of sympathy (Lol no I don’t) because he’s walked into a real cesspit of a football club nowadays but equally his early decisions are absolutely baffling.

    Keeps Maguire as captain.
    Selects McFred on the opening day and kept Fred in the XI for yesterday.
    Benches Varane - a world class CB! - for both games, bringing him on at HT yesterday once the little hobbit cried that he couldn’t reach Mordor.
    Persists with Rashford.
    Persists with Shaw.
    Persists with the English Pepe.
    Plays Eriksen as a false 9 against Brighton then as a DM against Brentford… does he not realise he has one of the best number 10s in Europe?!

    As I said after the Brighton game, new managers often tend to make changes that show one or two micro positives at the very least, even if results don’t go their way you can often see what they’re trying to do. Yet after a full pre-season with his new club, he’s managed to make Utd look even worse than they were under Rangnick and the end of Ole’s reign.

    Liverpool next for them too… could be ugly.
     
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    I've got a degree in sympathy. I know so much about it, I know that this isn't an occasion for it! <laugh>
     
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  10. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Thing is I need to be careful, I dropped about 40 Utd disses yesterday over the Prem board knowing full well we’re probably gonna lose today, not sure I’ll be getting much sympathy <laugh>
     
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    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Thats part of the fun of playing later though<laugh><whistle>
     
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  12. yossarian

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    This is my favourite
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    Man Utd in turmoil so soon is good, as since 2016 they
    are the club most likely to take a PL top 4 slot from Spurs.
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    A lot of this makes sense. His background is managing the thoroughbred in a two horse race with a legendary academy and recruitment system that preceded his tenure by many decades and will survive his departure by many decades too. Ajax is the club of choice for many of not most promising youngsters in the region and their market strategy is buttressed by a long standing expectation of buy low, sell high.

    Neither of these experiences is remotely useful in tackling the job at United as they are down the road from two clubs currently hoovering up young European talent and due to their size and financial clout are perforce buy high sell low.

    They have an absentee owner and dysfunctional executive...a strong character as close in willpower to Fergie's is what they needed to turn this around. Instead they appointed a nice guy who plays nice football and hasn't had a tough decision to make since sanctioning the sale of promising youngster Bart Ramselaar from Utrecht to PSV in 2016 for £4m.

    It's a different world.
     
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  16. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    SAF is only 80.
    He could do another 2-3 years as manager couldn’t he? :biggrin:
    80’s the new 70
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

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    Ajax are 5-1 up with not long left to go. Tough league for them...
    Bergwijn's got a hat-trick, too.
     
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    Is Dean Henderson saving a penalty for Forest v West Ham good or bad for Utd?
    All three sides are currently in the relegation spots.
     
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  19. KingHotspur

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    He’d only ruin his legacy if he went back (not that there is even a remote chance of that happening)
     
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    He's not silly. He knew the score when he retired. Things definitely aren't better now.
     
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