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Super league ****housery back

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Dr Van Helsing, Mar 3, 2022.

  1. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Barcelona will be gone within 3 years, it's all short term fixes then digging ever larger holes for the mid- to long-term. This notion that they can do it without PL clubs is so laughable.

    I hate them. But I hate UEFA more. Europa Conference League? What the actual ****ing ****? Get rid of it. They're getting it economically wrong, you create value by lessening something. CL should be shrunk back, ECL killed, Europa League back to a Europa Cup with no league stages. So in the PL, 1-3 goes CL, 4-6 + FA Cup goes to EL. Spain same, Italy same, Germany same, maybe France same, then one less for smaller and smaller leagues.

    The ESL is the worst conceivable idea. I mean, how do loans then work, for example? Doesn't make sense. At this, stage, though I want it all burned down. UEFA, rogue clubs hit with bans and sanctions, relegated out of top flights, etc.
     
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  2. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Perfect, an even better solution. We're getting better answers on a bloody forum than these tossers get up in the ivory tower.

    Regulation does not exist. But where can it? FA? PL is a marketing dept., as is UEFA, as is FIFA.
     
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  3. Hamish McMagdad

    Hamish McMagdad cult leader

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    European cup for league winners only. No more seeding bollox to protect the TV companies. All balls in one bag and if Madrid and PSG are drawn in the first round tough ****.

    Cup Winners Cup should be brought back with winners of FA Cup and League Cup from each country thrown in. Again no more seeded bullshit straight knockout cup tournament.

    Uefa Cup for league runners up, FA Cup runners up and League cup runners up.

    If the TV companies don't like it then **** them off, it's them that have ruined football.
     
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  4. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    I think it has to be FIFA!
     
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  5. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    I have no issues with there being 2/3 teams in the champions league from each league.

    But then all 32 teams go in the hat and get drawn for 8 leagues fair and square.

    No co efficient ****. Just that’s your luck.

    Each team plays each other 6 times and then top two go through. You have 16 teams and then it’s knock out.
     
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  6. Hamish McMagdad

    Hamish McMagdad cult leader

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    So only 8 countries get participants and then teams play 42 group stage games? I think you've had too much sun. <laugh>
     
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  7. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    I was just giving an example my dear friend. I didn’t really do the investigations into how many teams and leagues and stuff. If there was 64 teams then we would have 16 groups.

    My point is there has to be parity.

    If this ESL gets of the ground it’s a disaster for the rest of European football.
     
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  8. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    And remember old boy. I am stuck in an office with 18 stone fat Joyce who smells like a fish. No windows and it was 36 degrees.

    To get her back for the smell I deliberately didn’t wash my gonads and made sure every fart was toward the fan facing her.
     
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  9. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace

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    Why is she called fat Joyce if she's only 18 st?
     
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  10. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    She is 4ft 10
     
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  11. Hamish McMagdad

    Hamish McMagdad cult leader

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    Height or width?
     
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  12. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    Literally both. And she smokes. And she is a horrible human being.

    The weird thing is she is single but seems to pull every weekend she goes out.
     
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  13. Consett Mag

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    Haven't looked at all the story, but a ESL without Premier League clubs is a non-starter.

    It's turning comical. Barcelona look to be driving at full speed into a car crash. Let's see if they get away with it. If they register their new players whilst not cutting their salary cap and not properly paying some of their existing squad, then it's hard evidence that the game's broken.
     
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  14. Roland Deschain

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    Sure but who can or will use that evidence?
     
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  15. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    And proof enough that FFP is a load of bollocks. And we can the open up the purse strings.
     
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  16. Consett Mag

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    Wouldn't be too hasty to have that assumption. What's fair for one club - ie a £371m loss - may be far more fair that certain other clubs would ever receive if they make a £103m loss over the same period.
    Thankfully, good solicitors would be primed to dive in if the authorities get particularly tribal though.
     
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  17. Hamish McMagdad

    Hamish McMagdad cult leader

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    The theory behind financial fair play is good for all clubs but the process behind it ****ing stinks.

    The idea being, it is there to protect clubs from irresponsible actions from owners and trying to avoid clubs going bust.

    Best away around it would be to have the model which is currently in place, but once a club hits breakeven any footballing decision i.e transfer, improved contract etc etc should be done by way of the owner/s placing the entire transfer fee and total amount for the duration of the the players contract in an escrow account to be administered by a governing body, Christ throw fines in there of say a million quid per prem league club each time they use the facility, 500,000 for championship etc. etc. and use these fines to help grass roots, womens football etc.
     
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  18. Geordieginola

    Geordieginola Well-Known Member

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    I like this idea. In essence the money is always ring fenced and there to pay.

    This would have been good for Barca. But now the are bullying there players to take wage cuts and forfeit bonuses. So they can sign new players.

    That club is absolutely toxic man.
     
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  19. Maximin Effort

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    The problem is football is run on the never never. You'd have to have so much capital upfront. So clubs would need TV money, sponsorship money, loans against ticket money all ready at the start of the season. Alternatively you have to ask banks to loan the club's the money for the season. If you forecast getting CL and don't then the club could be screwed again as you can't repay the loan. And that's before interest is factored in
     
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  20. Hamish McMagdad

    Hamish McMagdad cult leader

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    TV Money, sponsorship money and season ticket money should be paid up front. I have no issues with this, why Sky can't afford to throw money up front rather than paying throughout the season is beyond me.
     
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