Summer transfer thread

Just in the EPL.

 

Just to elaborate - Broadhead needs to prove to everyone he can play 90 mins week in week out and deliver goals. He wouldn't get that here.

Coming here would have actually been the easy move for him. I completely understand the opinion that he's bottled it, I just don't agree with it. And would argue that rejecting the chance to play week in week out to come here and expect to be a substitute option would be "bottling" it.

We move on. He'd have been great but the circumstances just weren't right for anyone.

 

Much in the same way that if Jack Diamond decides to go to Fleetwood or Harrogate rather than try to break through with us, is that bottling it?

No - he needs to play and wants to prove he can play mens football week in week out. And he's 4 years younger than Broadhead who's never had the chance to.

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Completely different thing that like mate. You would have to use him going from Everton to us last season and Wigan this season instead of trying to break into theor first team him bottling it. No its not.

If he has changed his mind about coming here cause Simms had one good game bottling it? Yes!

Now he might have changed his mind for a host of other reasons but from what AN has said along with Prehab26 saying pretty much that it seems likely he has bottled it!

He hasn't trusted his own ability to force his way in to the team, that is bottling it!

 

there's no way he based it on that one game.

If he hasn't trusted his ability to break through is bottling it, should he have stayed at Everton? Surely leaving Everton is bottling it? (being facetious of course)

He's chosen to go to a championship club as (presumably) their main striker and play every game for the first time in his career. thats not bottling it.

 

Think the rule is just that you can’t loan more than 2 players in the Prem now. Madness. Not sure if there’s a rule on the 2 being from the same club

 

What do you reckon AN was getting at then?

Imo he was doubting himself before then but was still looking likely to come.

 

Spot on in my opinion. A world cup for any player is massive. I have said before Rob Page is almost certainly given him some advice and guidelines on what he needs yo do.

 

I think AN was using that to illustrate the challenge Broadhead would have faced here.

Broadhead knew he'd be third choice, and so did Sunderland, and importantly so did Everton. We gave his number 9 to somebody else. I know numbers "mean nothing", but it just further illustrated to everyone that Simms was THE guy. And we already had a THE guy. So Broadhead was only ever going to be third, in a season he NEEDS to be first.

This weekend just highlighted that further to everyone.

 

Broadhed will be reaching peak centre forward years by next summer.

If it doesn't go well at Wigan, it won't be the bigger Championship clubs that are looking at him then, so unless that is seen as taking a risk ( which it could be) he is almost deferring a decision, assuming we, and possibly others agreed a fee.

Good luck to him, but choosing a club who were late twice paying wages in the summer. It won't affect him as a loanee, but they are awful signs.

He's a good player, and almost certainly played the best football of his life here. It might not be quite the same somewhere else, and it would clearly have been harder to start here than last season.

Looks to me like he's chosen a comfort blanket.

 

If so, even more reason to avoid him. He'll be looking after himself.

 

Yeh you could definitely argue there were better options than Wigan. But as you say he's reaching peak years and he's never played as a first choice player anywhere in his career. He needed to go somewhere he was going to be the main guy. League One wouldn't have been testing himself enough so he had to go bottom of championship. At which point Wigan is about right?

 

AN could just as likely been blowing sunshine up Stewart and Simms arse to be honest. Or maybe he is pissed off at having been jilted at the last minute and he firing off. Managers come out with all kinds of psychology when talking to the media and it is notable Alex Neil hasnt gone as far as to say it is definitely the reason.

 

Aye - and I reckon there may be psychological issues with him and niggles. Its very easy for players to blow minor things out of proportion and feel injured. Bear in mind all pain is actually mental!! I reckon Rodwell suffered from this. And Wilshere.

And in World Cup year, especlaly if doing well, he could easily not want to risk injury and become even more protecting

I speak from some experience as I know I feel "niggles" much more than most people. I need to man up as well

 

We'll see. But late wages are an awful flashing red light. A nice safety net of his Everton contract protests him, butmight cost him in the long run.

 

I was 50/50 due to his injuries.

 

Was it this summer they were late with wages? They seemed to be in decent enough nick financially, so thats disappointed for them after everything they went through with the last owners.

 

You can’t loan 2 players from same club if you are in the PL. doesn’t apply to EFL clubs

 

Bob said three weeks ago he wasn’t coming so the Simms and LND playing well is ****e it was decided long aga

 

I could agree with your point of view if we had signed Simms at the start of the transfer window instead of just a few weeks ago .. but we have been trying to get Broadhead since the end of last season and if he wanted to be the main man then signing asap would have given him that chance... not buying the World Cup story seems more abut money to me.. He's made his decision good luck to him .