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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 11th July)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good Morning. It's Monday 11th July, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road.

    Has the Raphinha deal collapsed?

    Just when we thought the Raphinha deal had finally been wrapped up, Barcelona may have scuppered the deal at the 11th hour. Last night, the Daily Mail claimed that Barcelona had put together a package worth £63m for the Brazilian ace. They raised hundreds of millions by selling off some of their TV rights, allowing them to wheel and deal in the transfer market this summer. However, an article in this morning's Mundo Deportivo suggests that Barca have put the Raphinha deal on the back burner after Ousmane Dembele agreed to sign a new deal at the Camp Nou. Whilst it doesn't end their pursuit of the Leeds winger, Barcelona have more pressing signatures to chase down, leaving both Leeds and Barcelona in limbo.

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    The recruitment at Elland Road had not been very good for a while

    It's difficult to look at the signing's made this Summer and not feel optimistic about the season ahead. Even having lost our midfield lynchpin, and knowing that Raphinha isn't far behind, there is a real feel of confidence around Elland Road, that wasn't there last this time last year.

    Looking back over the last two or three seasons, former Leeds and England Striker Brian Deane admits feeling baffled by some signings, and bewildered how Leeds thought they could play out the entire (last) season with only Bamford up front. He also pointed out that other teams bullied Leeds last season, something rarely seen during this watch in the 1990's.

    Speaking exclusively to the Breakfast Debate, Deano said "The recruitment at Elland Road had not been very good for a while. I think it’s been a little unbalanced. I’ve been scratching my head as to why we needed so many wingers down there, and virtually no centre forwards. You’ve got Patrick Bamford who’s up there on his own, but look what happens when he gets injured. I’d say Gelhardt is more of a number 10. Rodrigo, where does he play and what does he do?"

    "The problem with bringing in a player like that, if Leeds had got relegated, all those players who had been bought in, as Internationals, wouldn’t have wanted to be playing in the Championship. You’re going to take a heavy hit on all of them. I think what they did with their recruitment is to step ahead of themselves, going out, getting international players. I’d like to see some physicality. There’s no physicality down there. Teams prayed on them last season."

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    Five noticeable absentees for Australia tour

    There were five noticeable absentees from Leeds Utd's 26-man squad that flew to Australia on Saturday Morning, in preparation for their first pre-season tour under Jesse Marsch. Whilst Firpo, Ayling and Dallas had been ruled out by injury, and Raphinha hopefully in advanced exit talks, the remaining quartet could be surplus to requirements at Elland Road.

    Jamie Shackleton looks likely to join Charlie Creswell on loan at Millwall, whilst Helda Costa has various offers abroad, as does Kiko Casilla. The big surprise is Lewis Bate. The soon-to-be 20yo is not thought to be in Jesse Marsch's immediate plans for next season, and will probably go out on loan. Interestingly, Archie Gray did make the squad, but will be back in time for his GCSE results.

    Full Squad

    Goalkeepers: Harry Christy, Kristoffer Klaesson, Illan Meslier

    Defenders: Liam Cooper, Leif Davis, Cody Drameh, Leo Hjelde, Robin Koch, Rasmus Kristensen, Diego Llorente, Pascal Struijk

    Midfielders: Brenden Aaronson, Tyler Adams, Adam Forshaw, Archie Gray, Darko Gyabi, Mateusz Klich, Marc Roca

    Forwards: Patrick Bamford, Joe Gelhardt, Sam Greenwood, Jack Harrison, Daniel James, Rodrigo, Luis Sinisterra, Crysencio Summerville

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  2. leeds60

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    Good Morning from a hot Bardsey Strikes ne re Raph that we are been played for MUGS by Barca lets show them we mean business now as for Charles lets move on the lad said from thestart he did not want to join us
     
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  3. southernwhite

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    :emoticon-0157-sun: Good morning all from an already sweltering southamptom :emoticon-0141-whew:
    Been away on a cruise to the Norwegian fjords from the 2-9 july, so just getting back to normal, before you ask, the scenery was incredible but the weather was lousy, cold & wet. And even worse can you believe I had a tooth twinge on the day we left and two days later was raging :(. Saw the ships Doctor who prescribed a weeks course of metronidazole, hurrah got rid of the the pain, one huge drawback though, no alcohol for the entire time I was on this medication :steam:.

    Also Can’t believe the Rapha saga has not been brought to a conclusion by now.
     
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  4. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    That's ****ty luck. Toothache is the worst.
     
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    Tell me about it, and i still have a couple of days of medication to go, god i missed the large rum & cokes, also a few pints with the BBQ yesterday. :(
     
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  6. Eireleeds1

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    Been on anti biotic many times during my life and never let it affect alcohol intake <laugh>
     
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  7. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    I suppose a glass half full guy would also say that you will also be missing the hangover this morning too.
     
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  8. milkyboy

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    ...good luck finding one of those on here!!
     
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    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    …expecting firpo to come good then bud
     
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    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    I'm said I'm an optimist. Believing in miracles is stretching it. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  12. ristac

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    Afternoon all

    Recruitment - How could you go against the wishes of Bielsa after his first three seasons.

    Raphinha - I just want him gone now, if he stays he’ll shine until the World Cup then start pushing for a cut price move
     
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  13. Eireleeds1

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    Gone yes but on our terms. Not his, his agent or bankrupt barcas
     
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  14. BillysStatue

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    LEEDS LEEDS LEEDS!!
     
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    i mention glass half full and here comes Billy... whose Leeds glass is always overflowing <cheers>
     
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  16. Aski

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    I remember a friend of mine, who is a chemist at a pharmacy, telling me that the no alcohol when taking antibiotics, is advice from the olden days, and that now a days for most people, there would be minimal effects to anyone drinking whilst on the medication, although of course the medical profession are going to cover themselves by saying don't drink ;)

    It's funny when doing a search for "can you drink alcohol when on antibiotics" the following headline advice is received on the first page of a Google results screen :)

    "It's a good idea to avoid drinking alcohol when taking medicine or feeling unwell. But it's unlikely that drinking alcohol in moderation will cause problems" - From NHS Website

    "Usually alcohol does not affect how well an antibiotic works to fight an infection, but the combination may lead to unpleasant side effects" - Drugs.com (presumably this is a domain name owned by Marcus ;) )

    "Drinking alcohol while taking antibiotics can be risky. Not only can alcohol interact badly with some medications and cause severe side effects" - Alcoholrehabguide

    "In fact, the majority of the most commonly prescribed antibiotics are not affected by alcohol" - BBC.com

    "You should never drink alcohol while taking certain types of antibiotics. This is because some antibiotics interfere with the breakdown of alcohol " - Drinkaware.com

    "In general then, most antibiotics can be taken safely with small amounts of alcohol as the majority of the most commonly prescribed antibiotics are not affected" -Drmortons.co.uk

    "Drinking alcohol while on antibiotics can not only cause harmful side effects but also prevents your body from fighting off infections." Insider.com

    Love the conflicting advice, to saying yes avoid it, but in most cases nothing serious will happen, to be don't do it, its risky and can cause harmful side effects.

    Legal Disclaimer - If you drink whilst taking antibiotics, and the combination doesn't go well, don't blame me, I'm not a medical professional :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    southernwhite Well-Known Member

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    <yikes>As usual thanks for the in depth research Aski, still a bloody alcohol free zone for me though, for the next two days :(
    metronidazole, leaflet inside the box, mentions hallucinations, heart tremors etc Apparently the wife (who works in the medical profession) says this is one Antibiotic you don't mess with. they must be bloody powerful as eased toothache within the hour.
     
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  18. Aski

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    Well I don't blame you for following your other half's advice over mine, although the effects of that medications appear similar to the effects of watching Leeds United ;)
     
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  19. Doc

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    In defence of Aski, have a look at the massive directions inside any box of aspirin and itwill say not to be taken with alcohol. Any medication says the same. Medics covering their arses.

    This is a fact, last summer I was on chemo and taking chemo tablets which were giving me nightmares. It got to the stage where those pink fkrs had me retching every time i saw anything pink, so couldnt take them any more. The oncologist asked what my fav drinks are I told him lager and red wine, he said there you go then take them with a beer in the morning and a couple of glasses of red wine in the evening. I was taking 8 of these big pink fkers morning and another 8 in the evening. Now if I can take alcohol with chemo poor old Southern should be able to get wrecked when taking antibiotics <laugh>
     
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    According to the QI elves it does go back to olden days. It was to stop those given antibiotics for the clap going out and infecting others or getting reinfected.
     
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