Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

Is this a serious post ? By down to earth working class language do you mean not state facts ? So if someone goes from Belgium to France do they react like total ****s? It’s because Farage and Co exploit thick ****ers that we have a problem. Don’t sound like one

 

Serious post yes, just don’t think you are living in the real world, France to England in a dinghy is ILLEGAL, fact

 

Belgium to France? Then why If your so desperate for a free democratic safe country do risk your life in the channel then?

 

Good post couple of things in relation to it....
I live in an ex colliery owned bungalow in Crookhall, on the outskirts of Consett. The streets are named Main Street, and then numbered streets. In Crookhall's case, streets 1 to 6: 1st Street, 2nd street etc....
The small village is built on sloping land, with Main Street running lengthways (horizontally) along the top. The numbered streets run from opposite Main Street downwards (vertically) to the botton of the land. The bungalows on Main Street are bigger than the ones in the numbered streets. They were all built circa 1921/22.

Main Street was for colliery management, the lower numbered streets, for the mine workers. This was so that, even when off, the workers were looked down on by the managers/supervisor's. The design meant those living in Main Steet could see all comings and goings of the streets below, but those in the numbered streets couldn't even see Main Street.

Other thing....how the miners were paid in tokens....
I'm sure this was what was alluded to in "The Great Money Trick" chapter in "The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists".
It's still the same now, except we now use money.....the endgame is exactly the same though.

 

You do realise we’re way down the list of European countries with refugees ? You’re getting caught up in the bullshit

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62025612

Now there's 6 additional allegations that have come to light going back more than a decade. These allegations don't include the 2 that he previously resigned for and was found "not to have breached the code of conduct" by a Conservative Party panel. So that's 10 in total that we're aware of now.

Downing Street has said that Boris Johnson was not aware of any specific allegations when he hired him in February. But there are reports that an MP contacted Downing Street raising their concerns about the possibility of him being appointed and made them aware of the unwanted advances he received from Pincher. Johnson has also been reported to have joked about Pincher in 2020 saying "Pincher by name, Pincher by nature".

Boris Johnson at first decided it was ok because he apologised and later suspended him on the back of public pressure, but still wants him to remain as an MP. Those with morals in the Conservative Party and public pressure is constantly needed to get Johnson to do the right thing. But that's because he doesn't actually see anything wrong with Pincher's behaviour. This is a man who's had multiple affairs, used his position in power to give taxpayers money to at least one of them and tried to give his mistress a £100k a year job before she became his wife. Johnson thinks Pinchers behaviour is just mischievous shenanigans, a man just trying to take what he wants. Johnson doesn't see the problem with that because it's what he's done his entire life.

 

It doesn't take long for this kind of thing to become acceptable and 'normal' and Johnson has lived his life this way ...

... the latest scandal takes people's eye off the previous one.

Then comes the condescending grin and 'we all need to move on and get the job done'. The trouble is that he gets the job done in a Harry Redknapp fashion ... big gestures to keep the supporters happy but a trail of destruction and wasted finances in his wake.

 

Don’t get caught in any bullshit marra,because I don’t get caught up in bullshit party politics.You’re probably right about the list though,still doesn’t excuse the illegal movements, and btw you still didn’t answer my question

 

This is spot on and exactly the kind of thing that a casual voter might not necessarily see.

I read a book called "The Fifth Risk" by Michael Lewis who is one of my favourite writers and has given great insight into the financial crisis, the pandemic and government (American focused) with his books in the last 15 years. In it, he discusses the transition from the 2nd term Obama government to the Trump one and how it affected day to day governing of the country.

Trump didn't fill the Government positions in the same way all previous presidents did. He didn't listen to any advice of those already in the roles and then he hired businessmen and loyalists into the decision making roles.

So he spouted off publicly about "cutting $1.8bn dollars of government waste" in the department of energy and criticised the Democrats, mocked climate change etc. But of course, the real story was that the Department of Energy does far more that actually look at energy or climate change. They spend $3bn a year cleaning up lethal waste that is still the residue of the Manhattan project in the 1940's. If any of the waste gets into the water, it can poison most of the Pacific North West. But of course, if that happens a decade from now, Trump won't get the blame for cutting funding and he won't care.

It feels like this government isn't too far away from that. There are dozens of bad decisions made by this government. I genuinely believe PPE and the handing out of government contracts to "friends and family" has cost lives and wasted billions. But whilst overseeing that scandal behind the scenes, they've managed to convince their supporters of a "Great British Vaccine" and being ran better than the EU as if it's all still about Brexit.

They spent time dog whistling about the opposition wanting to subvert democracy over Brexit, but at the same time illegally subverted it themselves by proroguing parliament and by attempting to restrict Judicial review so that they couldn't be held accountable for their actions.

Then of course, we have the scandals of Priti Patel bullying, Owen Patterson lobbying for special interests and Robert Jenrick pushing through housing deals for Tory donors. An independent commission reached the conclusion that Patel had bullied her staff but Johnson rejected it. Patterson was taking money from companies as a Special Advisor and subsequently they received £500m of government contracts. Johnson tried to change the disciplinary process in parliament instead so his mate didn't have to be suspended.

I haven't even mentioned Matt Hancock, Jennifer Accuri, Dominic Cummings, Partygate, lying to the Queen, Downing Street flat refurb, Zac Goldsmith's Villa, Cash for Honours, 2 other separate sex scandals involving Tory MP's, voting against school meals, the rail strikes and lying about 50,000 nurses.

Johnson will be ousted either by his own party or at the next election. A couple of these scandals will live on in his legacy, but by and large, he'll come away relatively unscathed, whilst the country will have wasted billions of pounds and had services cut to the bone - things that Tory party donors have been benefactors of.

At this point, anyone still prepared to vote for him either has their fingers in their ears or actually doesn't give a **** about anyone but themselves to a disturbing degree.

 

Excellent post

 

Of all of these scandals the worst is that foodbanks are growing quicker than any other business.

But Johnson will always visit a little NE engineering plant rather than them. Preferably one that hasn't been affected by Brexit and where he gets the chance to tuck his tie into his shirt and wear a hard hat.

 

The answer is generally that there are family members in the uk or friends from home. That’s also why they go to Denmark Sweden Germany France Belgium etc etc. I’m sure you’d want to be near your brother/sister/mum best mate if you were moving. It’s what happens when people move. Some friends follow.
Also traffickers lie to them so they maximise money which is why targeting traffickers is important. The traffickers often start much closer to their country of origin. There’s your answer now here’s a question. Why do you think people in England hold migrants responsible for so much when they have no power, don’t earn much etc.? Could it he the case that it is because of any of these things ….
There are many xenophobic little Englanders who hate foreigners
There are too many racist white supremacists who despise migration because it increases the numbers of black or brown people and muslims ?
Those with power and excessive wealth deflect the blame through the media to scapegoat others so they can continue being corrupt and those above are too thick to work out they’re being played? it certainly seems odd that in the midst of a cost of living crisis and post pandemic health and economic challenges people are fixating on a few hundred people in dinghies m.

 

He's really hoping the Boris thumbs up becomes his Churchill V for victory ...

... sadly he'll be remembered for his ridiculously overdone elbow bump

 

Spot on, I have posted links to a couple of snippets of local history about the disgraceful way that miners and their families were treated by colliery owners, the first two about Silksworth Colliery owned by Lord Londonderry
https://sunderlandglobalmedia.org/the-story-of-the-silksworth-mining-strike-evictions/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-35597635
https://consettmagazine.com/2015/06/05/the-colliery-band-the-candymen-pit-mining-91667/

 

Having mates and relatives in another country doesn’t and shouldn’t guarantee residency in another country (i have relatives in foreign countries, means nowt)
Yes they are far too many extremists and racists in this country,but the point of my opinion is these illegal crossing’s are playing into “Farage & co” rise in popularity,in fact in the last election if Farage and the Tories decided to not stand in MORE certain constituencies in order to split the vote the Tories would have had a even bigger majority

 

No but if you flee that’s where you’d head.
I agree that migration was and is a big issue for the British public. That’s why they’re throwing out this Rwanda bollocks for a few cheap political points from numpties. I’m just saying it shouldn’t be as big an issue - the British public are being manipulated into thinking it’s the biggest issue and of course a handful of idiots committing atrocities make people think all migrants are a threat, when in fact there are more far right plots being intercepted because the climate Boris and Farage have created. There are far bigger issues like kids from poor families being exploited by criminals, poverty, homelessness. We’re chasing families in dinghies.

 

Agree with the majority of that