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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Bob the Mackem

    Bob the Mackem Well-Known Member

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    Mate I will not stick up for them 2, they made massive mistakes and ran out of coin.
    But if everyone knew the whole story and the earlier situation regarding E Short, some might pull their necks in.
    Some think I stick up for CM instead of the club, do I ****e but ,why spoil a scandle when a massive lie can sound much better.
     
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  2. Bob the Mackem

    Bob the Mackem Well-Known Member

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    Its the Education side of things Dave wants to go to the USA to coach.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Part nostalgia and part because they know the club I'd imagine.

    I doubt KLD or Neil act with their hearts, not their heads though.

    Players need more talent than personality, I'd say coaches need equal amounts of both ... just my hunch.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Well you either spell it all out or people won't know ... endless hints is just like fishwives gossiping.

    Personally I couldn't care less, what happened years ago, and I doubt many people do.

    Whatever D&M did, or didn't do, I don't want them near the club, it's better without them.

    In all honesty I'm sick to death of hearing about them.
     
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  5. samwise_new

    samwise_new Well-Known Member

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    100% in agreement here, dwelling on the past and who said what and why means we are not moving forward...right now we have an ambitious, intelligent, knowledgeable owner, we have what is really looking like the best recruitment team the club has had forever (although a couple more windows will give a better view) and a manager who just loves his work so i am totally prepared to look forwards and put my trust in those in charge at the club now.
     
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  6. The Norton Cat

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    Liverpool's 'boot room' was mentioned earlier, which is an excellent example of how keeping people who know the club can work. I often bang on about Ajax and Barcelona, and they often employ their former players as youth coaches, allowing them to work their way up through the coaching structure. Its what really successful clubs do, in my opinion.
     
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  7. FellTop

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    I appreciate not everyone is the same but I would say coaches have to be the most hardworking people in any club. The hours put in away from training and matchdays is more than the same again. It is hard to describe what goes in, and in my experience the newer coaches, like our own, are obsessive workaholics. You give up so much as a coach that the majority of players dont.

    I think what marks out a good coach from a bad one is empathy. People might laugh at me now, but I can confidently state the basis and structure of a coaching session is the same at non-league and the pro game. We are all largely doing the same things. I have used some core session structures for years, and when I see sessions out of pro clubs they are very familiar. So anyone can produce a quality session plan - just ask google. The best coaches deliver the plan much better though. That is by being able to see how it is working quickly and adjusting to optimise it. That is what I mean by empathy. You need to understand your players, empathise with a mood, and act accordingly. At least that is the modern world I live in. Players are human and will be better some days than others, you need to recognise and adapt. I have been lucky to see some great coaches deliver sessions over the years. It is always those that adapt that stand out. Some are not famous ex pros. Others are of course. Stuart Pearce is unbelievable on the grass. He has a brilliant way of making players feel and perform better. He is an amazing talker in a training session, so clear and concise. I am rambling a bit now, but in my experience a good coach has a raft of people skills that maybe goes unnoticed.
     
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  8. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    I am rapidly approaching my dotage so don't quote me on it, I am sure I read it a couple of month ago but can't find anything about it since
     
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  9. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts exactly Smug
     
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  10. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    Who is a boro lad? and to be honest I know nothing about their coaching capabilities, but I seem to have rattled your cage
     
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  11. LD19SAFC

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    Cattermole, I presumeā€¦
     
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  12. Bigmackem

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    Alex Neil will know quite well the capabilities of the coaching staff and more importantly whether he considered them to be the standard required for the Championship campaign ahead of us . He is an experienced Manager who we fans need to back and support and that is backed by almost 30,000 season cards sold , on an earlier thread I said this would send out a message to everyone - we need to support the Owners and the Management , we have put a lot of money in to the pot how it is spent is up to the Management Team .
     
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  13. Oliver's Army

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    Agree. We will have some sticky periods next season, we need to stick with the gaffer and get behind the Lads. The fans can be a massive advantage next season
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

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    There's long since been a theory that our support is actually a detriment because players freeze in big games.

    It didn't happen at Morecambe, the play off semi finals or the final during which we scored in every game and only conceded one.

    So that blows that theory apart and we need to carry it on this season.

    We should hope it's the opposition players who freeze when they play us and the supporters have their part to play.
     
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  15. Chunksafc

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    Not sure how you get to cost cutting etc when 2 existing members of staff have been promoted?

    Neil will have been consulted on this and be happy with their promotion, no way he would not have had an input in this.

    I sometimes wonder if the experiences of the last few years have affected people's ability to see things in a good light and they just expect the worst?
     
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  16. Peterleeyacker

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    Or maybe it was Neil's recommendation to promote them.
    This is the point, people are second guessing all the time and throwing a hissy fit at someone's guess work.
     
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  17. TopCat_

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    I don't think this group do. Not under Alex Neil anyway. He was the calmest person in the stadium at Wembley
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

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    Ainsworth totally overplayed his Mr Cool act and looked a bag of nerves.

    His antics in the tunnel were ridiculous and, even when the players were being introduced, he was waving to people in the crowd and doing stupid rap hand signs.

    Neil just gave him a sideways glance and thought 'eejit, I've got you pal' <laugh>
     
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  19. TopCat_

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    Just watched highlights back again. Still buzzing nearly 5 weeks on. Can't believe I got to see my team win at Wembley AND we are out of that God forsaken league
     
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  20. LD19SAFC

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    New home shirt.
     
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