Match Day Thread Champions League Final

Continental Europeans think that nobody notices their barbaric behaviour, either when it comes to football fandom or policing. Well I do, and it's rife with drunkenness, litter and violence, even murder. Far worse than England.

 

Why does he describe them as British supporters. Is he making this a nation against nation thing. No fan of Liverpool at all but something not right here. Truth will be somewhere in the middle.

 

pity the French police don't put the same effort into stopping people crossing the channel

 

Thousands of people failed to get in due to fake tickets being rejected by the turnstiles, according to the French organisers. Meanwhile, Andy Robertson said he gave a club ticket to a mate, who didn't get in due to the turnstile rejecting his ticket. Maybe we shouldn't automatically accept the official version.

 

Does need looking into. No problem at Madrids end though. To get to the bottom of it would start with who by and where was the fake tickets been sold. If there are thousands it shouldn’t be too hard to find the answer.

 

How hard can it be to get 20,000 ticket holders into a stadium?

 

I'm sure the vast majority of Liverpool fans who got caught up in it all were doing nothing wrong and having been to the Euro's in '16 can completely believe the ridiculous attempt at crowd control by the police. Let's not pretend no one was trying and succeeding to jib in though. The Madrid end behind the goal had distinct blocks of fans. The Liverpool end was a solid mass of people with all the stairs crowded. It looked like a terrace from the 70's.

 

Odd that there is never any issues like this at the big Rugby Union games?

 

titheads Like this do them no favours, claiming justice for the 97 while boasting about sneaking a ticketless fan in . Braindead.

 

**** has deleted his account now

 

However in Madrid...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-61622874

 

As is always the case the minority spoil it for the majority, we as a club also have the fkwits who spoil it, every club has em, just a shame we can't stamp it out.

 

Journalist's close up view of problems, in summary, caused by staggeringly stupid police decisions that no-one seemed to be able to override, and also most people jumping the fence seemed to be locals.

 

Don’t like the club, but I bet the problems would have been the same had the English team been Man Utd, Man City or Chelsea. I think the authorities looked at the Wembley fiasco from the Euros final last summer and concluded the English Hooliganism problem has returned and policed accordingly.

The bbc live thread this morning is an eye opener. There’s enough reports of children, people in wheelchairs, player family and friends, and reporters being tear gassed at random to persuade me that this wasn’t a fan problem. They had to go though three police checkpoints showing their tickets, and only at the turnstile were they told their tickets were fake? Andy Robertsons mate with a club ticket being told it’s fake? Nah, police and uefa cocked up big time. In fact, kudos to the Liverpool fans for not panicking and pushing back when kettled in - out of all clubs they know the consequences of crushes in big crowds. FFS, even Merseyside plod are saying the vast majority of fans behaviour was “exemplary”.

 

It sounds like they are getting their excuse early.

 

I don't know what's involved in putting on a game like this but I wonder if the fact it went to Paris at relatively short notice has anything to do with it.
Not trying to defend UEFA or the French authorities, just wondering.

 

If that was the case, shouldn't it have effected the Madrid fans as well?

 

Well, yes you'd have thought so.

 

I reckon it was a simple case of a foreign police force strong arming English fans to try and oppress them. City fans that went to Lokeren will remember a similar though lower key example.