They are all as bad as each other regardless of which "party" they come from. Angela Rayner was at a lockdown event with Starmer - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61271050
You keep talking about an 'ideology' but its really just the right of the Conservative party. What you have to remember is that the 'ideology' of the left is pushing people towards them. Someone posted a video of a radio host berating a very less-than-eloquent caller about his political views the other day. I thought that video epitomised the problems in political discourse in the UK today. The host ridiculed and belittled the caller without allowing him to make what was a valid point. Most people just want to get on with their lives and have no problem with anyone in any kind of minority group. Even many of the 'Labour supporters' on this forum regularly express conservative (note the small c) opinions and viewpoints. The urban liberals/lefties (whatever you want to call them) are very vocal, however, and promote a version of inclusiveness that appears to go beyond inclusivity. Anyone who asks for a bit of balance is (usually) unfairly vilified. People are then scared to say anything that may be perceived as not being 'politically correct'. This makes even many moderates feel alienated. Added to this, at the last election, the opposition were led by an anti-establishment figure who carries a chip on his shoulder over the way he was asked to leave educational establishments and the fact that most of his political career he was considered to be a bit of a joke. That further pushed people away from the left/Labour and into the waiting arms of the right of the Conservative party. My point is, as it has been for a long time, if we want a more inclusive, nicer, better society, we have to attempt to end the polarisation. Which means that your radio host, and people like him, have to start listening to the views of others, and even some of the rhetoric on here needs to be toned down. In short, you don't make a better society by alienating people.
Oh dear, Labour has blatantly lied to everybody about Rayner being at a lockdown party and Starmer has recently needed to apologise for misleading parliament. Surely he'll resign over this weekend?
Ah but you see he didn't know whether he was there himself or not, never mind Angela Rayner. And was there music? It's not a party if there is no music. There may have been cheese and wine though which would definitely make it a work event. Let's wait until the Police investigation is over eh?
Do you think that the polarisation problem is a natural outcome of what is and always has been in reality, for as long as I can remember a two party power struggle.
Two choices in essence, one as bad as the other, and I do vote by the way, but can fully understand those that don't.
Don't know really. My gut feeling is that its a societal problem that would occur irrespective of the parties as they currently exist.
There’s no better way of alienating people than sending them to Rwanda. Let’s be honest a big chunk of leave voters were and are Xenophobic not all obviously but evidence in the hate spikes post vote. Shameful. That wasn’t evident in May’s government but the leaders of this ideology were Farage and Johnson. Both liars for power, both churchillian populist speakers who give the impression we’re at war with the French and people with different cultures. I wasn’t a massive fan of the Momentum ideology either but it doesn’t excuse the current government and there’s clear evidence that they use bluff, lies, manipulation to retain power and money with minimal ethics. If we don’t want to alienate people we need a new cabinet with the right ethos.
