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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

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    Not enough
     
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  2. Stroller

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    Why would you assume that?
     
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    Because you answered with something that had no point whatsoever.
     
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  4. kiwiqpr

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    putting the tax up would make it even more expensive
    they cut 25 cents a litre off the petrol tax here for the next 3 months
     
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    What would you do Kiwi ?
     
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  6. Stroller

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    Seemed relevant to me. Anyway, forget it, I can't be arsed to argue. I was agreeing with you.
     
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    That’s a no then.

    Who’s seen the corpse of the woman daubed with a Swastika who (it is alleged) was tortured by Asov Nazis, as reported by US Navy veteran Patrick Lancaster embedded with the Russian army. Again, no idea if it’s staged.
     
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    I know mate, and I respect you for it. I was just pointing out why a socialist future, with a state controlling and profiting from the Utilities, as I firmly believe should be the case, wouldn’t be possible under EU rules.

    It’s one on the many reasons I am and was a firm leaver.
     
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    what would happen if you raised vat but brought income taxes down by the same level
    the rich can have as many tax avoidance schemes as they like but they still buy things
    would the tax take go up

    Petrol Costs Breakdown
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    What Costs are there with 1 Litre of Petrol
    The cost of petrol is a strong talking point in the UK. But do you know exactly where your money goes when you buy a litre of unleaded? The prices below give the approximate make up of a litre of petrol in the UK as of August 2007.

    Cost of Petrol
    This breakdown of the cost of petrol is based on the assumption of a £1 per litre of petrol.

    • Petrol Fuel Duty - 48.35p
    • VAT (17.5%) - 14.9p
    • Refinery Petrol Costs - 31.75p
    • Forecourt Costs - 3p
    • Forecourt Profit - 2p
    This means that the forecourt cost is 5% of the total petrol price, the oil cost is ~32% and taxation ~63% of the total cost as can be seen more clearly below:

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    Read more: http://www.whatprice.co.uk/petrol-prices/cost-litre-breakdown.html#ixzz7OrJPNx8b


     
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  10. Staines R's

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    I did look up the video you mentioned Uber….****ing brutal.
    Sad fact if war that atrocities will be carried out by ALL sides, and strengthens my point that there’d are no ‘good guys’
     
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    So what would you do Kiwi (or is your idea the red bit ) ?
     
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    I was recently reading about the forced resettlement of Germans after WW2 and the atrocities perpetrated by Czechoslovak soldiers (who were our Allies). In war, everybody does something pretty appalling. Dresden, Hamburg anybody?
     
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    Adding to that the numbers of returning Jews killed in Eastern Europe during pogroms AFTER WW2…it makes me despair of the human race as a whole
     
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    ****ed if i know
    turn lights off and get a company vehicle
    would nationalising utilities make them any cheaper
     
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    Staines R's said:
    So what would you do Kiwi (or is your idea the red bit ) ?

    and yes
    the red bit was todays random thought
     
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    Personally I think it would make them cheaper, purely down to the fact that profits made wouldn’t have to be paid out in disidentes to share holders or exorbitant bonuses to managers. This could then be used to make things cheaper, while investing in new technology.
    Of course I’m no economist and it’s a very simplistic view that could have a downfall somewhere.
     
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    labour govt renationalized the rail here
    no better service and on the rare occasion i use it or any public transport not cheap either
    the govt pretty much own air new zealand after it almost went bust and they have cut domestic services unless there is competition where they then cut prices to drive out the competition and once thats been done they pull out themselves
     
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    I think tax avoidance is something they really need to crack down on, and many “loop holes” need to be closed.
    I’m not saying that there isn’t a place for some kind of “tax free” saving schemes, like ISAs etc….but it doesn’t seem right that those with billions, both companies and individuals, seem ok with avoiding paying the tax that people like us have to pay.
    We as a culture need to look at tax paying as an honour, and be proud to pay something that benefits the whole community……a bit like the Muslim “Zakat”
     
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    Obviously not a government of the people then.
     
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    are any really
     
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