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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Prehab26, Mar 19, 2022.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    And Lifeguardesses <laugh>
     
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    Is that Andy Townsend???
     
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  3. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    What about the mentality of this man/woman? I wouldn't dare be pulling this stunt If I was in her shoes. If I did I would feel like a right ****. Be the equivalent of me turning out for South Moor under 10's, kicking the opposition up a height and constantly hitting power blammers at the keeper from point blank range and celebrating ferociously after every one of my 17 goals.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

    Not many posts make me actually laugh out loud ...

    ... but that did <applause>
     
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    Get some cockerels for eggs, then some bulls for milk then see what happens, especially at milking time <laugh>
    Gender matters!
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    If there is genuinely any question left about the fairness of this I think we need to look at how man trans sports people, turning from female to male, are competing at the highest level.

    I can't think of and have heard of none. I won't go as far as some and say men can't become women, they can to my mind. But genetics can't just be scrubbed all together.
     
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    :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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    If you were born on Feb 29th and only had a birthday every 4 years could you claim you were under 8's when you were 30? Shouldn't matter what you identify as ffs. If i identified as an orange could my wife enter me in a horticultural show?
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    This is the definitive answer as far as I'm concerned.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50548473

    "Debbie underwent a full female-to-male surgical transition, which included having a phalloplasty - where a penis was constructed from skin on her forearm.

    She changed her name to Lee and spent 17 years on testosterone - masculinising hormones that can lead to changes such as more facial hair and more muscle developing.

    She believed transitioning would allow her to "become accepted in the world".

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    But now, aged 61, she's detransitioning back to the gender she was assigned at birth."
     
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    That was the similar to the point I was made, does she not sit and think what has made me jump over 460 places in the rankings? Something has changed is it that I have suddenly just improved my technique!

    The morality of these competitors should be questioned too!
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Teenagers deciding they want breast implants, tattoos or beards shouldn't be encouraged in my opinion.

    As an impressionable teenager I became a member of the Communist Party, went to a signwriting night class and started hitching around the country supporting Sunderland ...

    ... at times I could shake my head at these and countless other bright ideas I had in those days.

    Sadly, unlike a full sex change, once you start supporting Sunderland there's no way back <doh>
     
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    Suspect the most painful part of your teens was the Sunderland bit!!
     
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    These days I think kids' problems are cynically exploited by some agenda driven people who con them into thinking doing this is the only way to solve them. When the change doesn't solve the problems it can be devastating psychologically.
    I'm all for letting people that this will genuinely help do it, but we need to accept that the frenzy to make this massive change as easy as changing your t-shirt is wrong. We have a duty as a society to look after people. That doesn't mean letting everyone just do anything they want.
     
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    For me it should be like handicapping in horse racing and make he/she swim with a 20lb weight attached to bellend:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    Are they mags ?
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    You only have to look at young girls who have breast implants 'to improve their lives' while other young girls are having reductions 'to improve their lives'. Not to mention bums, lips, cheekbones, etc etc etc.
    When they end up even more miserable they want it reversed.

    I feel sorry for them all, including the lad in the title ...

    ... life's complicated enough without hating yourself so much you want to change the body you're in.
     
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    i tend to keep out of such discussions...i cannot imagine what it must be like to genuinely feel you are born 'wrong' when everything says you are male but your mind says female (or vice versa) and i honestly think if your life will be made better and happier by doing whatever you can to change then so be it, i have spent years being 'on the bottom' and can imagine this to be far worse and i dont want anyone to have to live like that.

    ..but, in my mind that is where it ends and i just cannot see how it appears to have become 'trendy' to be trans or a cross dresser or suddenly invent a 'new gender' just so you can be different and decide everyone now has to treat you differently (but always, always with the utmost respect taking your feelings above all else)...whatever you choose you were born male or female and that is it, i suppose it depends on your view of male and female but in my mind, the female of the species is most usually the one who creates and carries the offspring with the male just there to fertilise so until they can alter bodies to do either 'the male' or 'the female' role then we are stuck with whatever we are born with.

    as for competing in competitions i feel they should go off the birth gender, i know we see a lot of trans and at times it is very difficult to tell but i just do not think a male will 'weaken' sufficiently to be on a level playing field with 'natural' females, especially when we are talking about athletes that train damn hard for many years and may only get one or two chances to compete at the highest level (usually seen as the olympics) and to lose out to a trans competitor will, i think, cause problems...in the current 'why should they not?' attitude of many it may not matter but i wonder how long they will hold this view.

    another reason i try to keep out is that i am sh1te at writing down what i feel/mean and tend to upset some feckers along the way...so i apologise for those that cannot accept that others may have a different opinion than themselves, but it is called 'life'.
     
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    Kind of hate these debates because I don’t believe for one second people just choose to be like this. I’m sure I read a stat about trans suicide rates are higher than normal suicide rates. Life must be so difficult for them. I never really get why they are such a targeted group, they just seem to be a scapegoat for people. However I don’t know how I feel about the competing in women’s sport. Is there enough evidence it’s as much of a problem as people are making out? It seems like a gaslighted issue. If there is enough evidence to support the idea then I honestly don’t know what the solution is. You can’t deny someone a chance to compete in sport however if there’s an unfair advantage then that surely can’t continue.
     
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    Unfortunately not just strange folk
     
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