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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    I do my bit by paying a ridiculous marginal tax rate for **** all return.
     
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  2. Staines R's

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    So your bins don’t get emptied, your house fire doesn't get put out and you don’t get an ambulance when you’re sick (with a jolly chap like me in it)…….?

    Shame on you Bracknell…..I’m quite shocked at your attitude. More akin to Thatcher than Bevin
     
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  3. BobbyD

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    To be fair to stainesy and west, i think hes expecting more from our tax and of course our country shouldn't be taking the piss.

    At the same time, i see that we pay less tax than all the really nice socialist countries and it makes sense we have a worser experience than them.

    Likewise we pay a lot more than the u.s.a and our state help is far better.
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

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    Thatcher would have at least brought the marginal tax rate down in return for sub-standard public services and making life harder for the worst off.
     
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    The problem is Bobby, we need a government who is willing to actively close loopholes of tax avoidance and to tax the rich more than they currently do now. Sadly Labour, in my opinion, would be just as bad as would look after their rich friends and donors. This guff about the rich leaving for elsewhere is in fact unproven and I would be willing to take a chance of that not happening
    A start would be a windfall tax on the super rich.
     
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    **** me Bracknell….now your praising Thatcher :emoticon-0104-surpr
    Are you sure Ellers hasn’t got hold of your phone ?
     
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  7. Sooperhoop

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    I get the feeling he won't be the last...

     
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    Burn the witch - and Bracknell too
     
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    Never had Bracknell down as a Thatcher loving, right wing Tory boy……to say I’m shocked is an understatement.
     
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    We need an electorate that's prepared to vote for a government that's willing to re-distribute wealth via taxation. We don't have one.

    Instead, the people that would benefit from such re-distribution were perfectly happy in 2019 to vote for a party that would make them even poorer because they wanted to 'get Brexit done'.
     
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    So now it’s the electorates fault ? Interesting concept Strolls. If Labour would have actually had policies aimed towards working people, gone against the Neo-Liberal EU (instead of having no direction) and abandoned their policy of identity politics….then maybe people wouldn’t have abandoned them in droves.

    Well the ones they haven’t kicked out of the party anyway for being too “Left Wing”.

    Labour have no one to blame for their demise but themselves….
     
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    If they’d just told people what they wanted to hear it might not have been quite such an embarrassing defeat. The fools.
     
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    Spoken like a true Tory boy
     
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  14. Stroller

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    The working class electorate was gullible and it was fooled into voting against its own interests.
     
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    Gullible…stupid…..gammon….pearl clutchers…..you wonder why people abandoned Labour like they did ?
    You neo-liberals destroyed the support and will take years to get back
     
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    Back to name-calling eh?
     
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    If the cap fits Strolls

    But to be fair….the Tory boy bit was obviously a joke
     
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    So tiresome. You've sunk to Ellers levels, mate.
     
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    Is it because the alternative told them what they wanted to hear?

    I totally get the theory that Labour have somehow lost the working class, what with all their policies that could have helped the working class. I don’t get how the alternative is in any way better let alone blatantly obviously much worse.
     
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    Don’t bring me into this.
     
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