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Match Day Thread Sunderland v Crewe Alexandra – Saturday 12th March 2022 - KO 15:00

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Mar 10, 2022.

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Poll closed Mar 12, 2022.
  1. Home win

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    For JD39 ...
     
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  2. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    I think that would’ve happened had O’Nien had more that 35 minutes of football in the last 4 months. Good management to take him off imo as he offered more than most but it’s easy to injure yourself playing too much football too quickly
     
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  3. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

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    My first thought was why tf is he taking off O'Nien until I remembered he's barely played. Easy to forget because he's looked remarkably polished considering how long he's been out.

    Still think sack Evans off and play him and Matete in CM. Maybe Neil ahead of them while Pritchard is out.
     
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  4. robinoz

    robinoz Well-Known Member

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    I see what you did there - clever
     
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  5. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    At least we've scored late goals in our last two games to secure the points.
    Just need to add a few early first half goals to them and it's happy days all round..I think
     
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  6. Dunder Mifflin

    Dunder Mifflin Well-Known Member

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    Wigan have been doing what we’ve done last 2 games all season, by hook or crook they get the results.

    yes it was horrid for the first 84 mins yesterday but once we scored the game opened up and we got more joy. Crewe deserved nothing and their time wasting was embarrassing.

    Always great to see a team scramble for the ball and the urgency intensifies after their game plan of doing **** all and time wasting fails.
     
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  7. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    80 mins utter sh*te. 2 late goals (both good uns) 3 points happy days. I would settle for the same again the next 9 games if it meant 27 points.
     
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  8. Whittylad

    Whittylad Well-Known Member

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    As has been said already a horrible 80 mins, the football was slow and predictable. However the 2 goals were crackers and 3 points are the most important thing. As @Gil T Azell says points over performance at the minute. Need to keep winning scruffy will do. On we go.
     
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  9. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    A lad on twitter had a good point regarding time wasting. Don't add the time on. That time added on yesterday could only have really benefitted them. What a change from their goalie and team once they went a goal behind.
    6 x subs = 3 mins. 6 mins extra yesterday. That could potentially given Crewe hope when in fact they deserved sweet FA.
     
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  10. spirit of 73

    spirit of 73 Well-Known Member

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    Agree mate they were sh*thousing from the 9th minute. There should be a process where the ref can take the time we waste off the time they waste as a punishment to them. So if he was going to add on 5 mins they wasted then we waste 2 mins after taking the lead he deducts ours from theirs and ends up with a balanced 3 mins extra, if that makes sense.
     
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  11. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Agree with this. Same on Tuesday. Fleetwood at 0-0, 0-1 and 1-1 wasted an age. I’ve watched teams do it against us and get 4 minutes, occasionally 5 added. But Wigan, fleetwood and yesterday it was like they were trying to say “look we’re not biased to the big team”
     
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  12. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Or do it like rugby and have an independent time keeper.
     
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  13. spirit of 73

    spirit of 73 Well-Known Member

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    Like that mate another one which I don't know how practical it would be, comes from American football, where the linesman carries a flag marker to drop at the point of a throw in and if the player passes it, it is turned over to the opposition.
     
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  14. Iain

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    We aren't any different mate it's just the side of the fence we are on that makes us think differently, 0-0 with 10 minutes to go we are desperate for a goal , when we score we are relieved but also annoyed we had to endure over 80 minutes of ****.
    When other teams like Wigan keep doing it we have been upbeat for over 80 minutes then we get annoyed when they win late on.
    I'm sure Oxford, Plymouth and sheff wed will have been monitoring are last 2 games and thinking exactly they way we thought about Wigan, saying we play to the final whistle and grid out results when we aren't playing well, whereas we just think we've played ****.
    I know we have played some of the poorer teams lately and not really performed well however in the last 4 games weve scored 8 goals and conceded 1, kept 3 clean sheets and picked up 10 points from a possible 12.
    Our best performance was against one of the sides favourites for automatics, if Neil can get us to the play off I really think we will have a chance, especially as whoever we play will try to win the game, rather than putting 11 men in their own box and hoping for a 0-0 because that is when we struggle
     
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  15. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Evans is garbage!! I can name 3 users on here who said he’s better than onien. Not one of them have come out and admitted how stupid that is and how obviously wrong they were.
     
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  16. Young Ted

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    We’ve been lacking a leader on the pitch for a long time
     
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  17. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

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    I've no idea what Evans once might have been, but if it was any good, he isn't it now.

    He is a passenger. In that position the player should always be offering himself as help to the player with the ball, unless it's in the box or on the way there. Evans does almost the opposite. He's hopeless and self serving.
     
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  18. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Although the ref was mainly poor yesterday I was impressed he gave us that indirect free kick for the goalie not releasing the ball within the allotted time.
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I've looked back carefully at the last two games and there's something so obviously hidden in plain sight ...

    ... the club is a millstone around its own neck.

    Ironically Matete has bucked the trend because he's too daft to care. But endless new players step onto that pitch and visibly freeze, even experienced players like Evans who can play much better. And how many times have we seen players written off and allowed to leave before playing well in a higher division, McNair, Whatmore, Honeyman, Colback, etc.

    In my opinion it's totally impossible for this squad to be incapable of playing simple passes, making clever runs off the ball and putting in decent crosses and dead balls. Yet somehow they manage it. These are often players who've played at a higher level and some on the international stage ... so how come they fluff their lines when they're playing for us.

    It has to be the weight of expectation and the pressure a 30,000 crowd inadvertently puts on them. Rather than risk making mistakes, taking risks and moving forward they're too often checking back or passing the ball/buck square. Clarke, on a dozen occasions, yesterday, hesitated until he became double marked or ran out of room to get a cross in. He should be sent home with a DVD of Summerbee crosses.

    I've no idea what can be done to stop the players choking because the supporters have every right to expect them to play to their capabilities. Confidence, victories and momentum are intertwined and will hopefully come together for the rest of the season. The last two games will have at least shown the players that they should never give up on a game. Ironically the players who start seem to struggle to get started yet the substitutes often make an impact. I suspect that's because there's a greater weight of expectation on the 'first eleven'.

    It's down to the manager to solve that puzzle where others have failed.
     
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  20. TopCat.

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    Yeah last 2 games it's been funny watching the keeper suddenly scramble to take goal kicks after spending 85 mins falling over, checking his studs, re-placing the ball, taking a drink etc etc

    Said it for years, it's time to experiment with 30 min halves and stop the clock every time the ball goes out of play. Time-wasting would be eradicated overnight
     
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