I bet they ****ing deleted it! ****ing twat of a tosspot thinks RAF Brize Norton is the same as the streets of Kiev. What a total ****er Meanwhile his vicious, nasty Foreign Secretary is turning refugees back at our borders whilst other countries accept them. And where’s the Russian report highlighting Putin’s influence? And all the Russian money that’s been “donated” to the tories? The man and his government are a total disgrace and an embarrassment to this country
We can only hope …. The worry is that he decides to use a “tactical battlefield nuke” on troops - a “small” one - to get past resistance ….. now that’s a dreaded thought. Or he could threaten to do something with the waste at Chernobyl to get his way. The guys a head case - he’ll be in his nuclear bunker so **** everyone else ….
Not nuclear but very nasty is the thermobaric bomb, nicknamed the “Father Of All Bombs”, claimed to be four times more powerful than the USA’s most powerful, non nuclear bomb. Never been used in combat - yet.
That’s scary **** …. Why do these countries keep trying to outdo each other? It’s a “my dick is bigger than yours” situation, isn’t it?
I don’t see how anyone can be certain of that. Some facts: - he said he would see SWIFT removal as war declaration. Which we have just done. - he has always said it is better to strike the first blow in fights. - our financial sanctions will cripple Russia I think we are on the knife edge right now
Not Ukraine he will be nuking if he goes there. It will be Nato. This is all seriously scary. These financial sanctions on Russia are going to be very, very damaging. I’m not sure how Putin will respond here.
Absolutelyfuckingright, arsehole 1st class. As for Patel and the border agency no words to describe turning desperate people away. Funny Russian money Aaron Banks and others going to worry if the sanctions bite.
Maybe Pritti Patel can be moved to the Ukraine/ Russian border where she could morally practice what she preaches... trying to keep people out..
The world has done totally mad in the last week. I think Putin invasion of Ukraine is reprensible but , the same same token, the response of the EU is actually almost as bad as the drivel coming out of Moscow. Botb sides need to seriously rein in the rhetoric. It is pretty shocking that the talk of sanctions and further action coming from the likes UvdL is far more hawkish that anything being said by Biden. 1. The West should recognise that the addrangisement of NATO is seriously inflaming the situation in the East of Europe and there should be serious endeavours to ensure that this does not continue and, indeed, countries such as the former Baltic states and Poland need to have far looser ties than is the case at present. 2. I think that there will ultimately be a negotiated settlement between Russia and Ukraine and the proposal to meet in Belorussia should actually be what the EU should be promoting and not talk of further sanctions or military action. I would like to see these talks brokured by a country that has no political aliance to either Europe or Russia. (Perhaps a country from South America or Asia where there has been no meddling by Putin.) 3. I have been staggered by the notion from "Dizzy Lizzy" that she would be happy for British nationals to joined foriegn legions fighting the Russians in Ukraine. She should be immediately dismissed for making this statemenbt and this is exactlythe last thing we need t do. We must stay out of this conflict. It does not stand to reason that we condone action of British citizens in Europe whilst criminalising the same for serving in IS. Bth are wrong and neither should be entertained - ever!! 4. The ramping up of the rhetoric by the West this afternoon is particularly wrong. I believe the Russians have 30,000 tanks and the likes of the UK and Germany have something like 200 each. The West cannot win a conventional war against Russia despite the apparent disorganisation we have witnessed in Ukraine. 5. Reading the Sunday Telegraph this afternoon, it is fascinating to see how Putin's government is being perceived by western intelligence. There is a strong suggestion that the real control is on;y held by a handful of individuals. I am wondering that if Putin went too far, how quickly other factions in Russia will move against him. I have a gut feeling that this is going to happen muh more quickly than people think. I am not convinced by the Russian anti-war protesters having any impaxt as there certainly seem to be as many other Russian citizens who approve of his actions. For me, it will be those people who look certain to lose their fortunes and influence in the West who will make the move. i.e. The challenge will almost certainly not come from the streets. 6. It is disconcerting that the EU has really shown it's true colours this afternoon. I have been very disappointed with their reactions and would have thought better of them. They have not acted to cool the situation down but have actually fanned the flames far more seriously than Boris has acheived. 7. The issue of refugees intrigues me. We have been extremely poor to accept refugees from countries such as Iraq and Afghastan where the UK has had such a terrible impact but seem all to ready to accept white refugees from a country we have had little to do with. In a nutshell, the whole of Eastern Europe has always been something of a basket-case. We shoulf not interfer in the politics of countries we do not understand to the detriment of other countries that are considered as an enemy. I just think that this is a massive failure of diplomacy and far too many people are itching for a war. This reminds me so much of what happened to kick World War One off. Effecitvely, the west should not meddle and not be involved. Russia has never grasped the principle of democracy and whilst they have occasionally waved a flag for internationalism, it is naive to think they will ever share our values. If it does kick off, I think that America is very likely to sit this one out and let Europe get on and sort out it;s own mess. Shame that many of the politicians cannot see that an form of conflict is to no one's advantage and is not what the people they represent want. The Russians will all too soon get rid of Putin and it is just a time of being patient.
I think that the only thing I agree with here is your last sentence. They will do, yes. But it's precisely because of the measures you very wrongly dismiss in the rest of the post that will be the reason why the balance will tip and provide their motivation to do so. Other than that, I fundamentally disagree with all of the above. I mean, point 2. You think they should meet in Belarus!??!?! But it should be brokered by a country from South America or Asia "where there has been no meddling from Putin". Really, Ian?
You disagree because it is a incoherent ramble that contradicts itself whilst trying to cram in all the extreme left wing anti-war talking points. In fact likely because it tries to do that. I particularly noted the comment about Putin’s government potentially turning on him quickly when that is only even remotely possible due to all the other measures that are complained about in the rest of the post There is also some baffling comments about conventional wars. If there is a conventional war where nukes are off the table - NATO wins. But the comment is daft anyway as lots of things have to go wrong for it to get to that stage. Not saying they won’t go wrong of course. But I expect the numbers picked out are deliberately low end for Europe (and ignoring the the US) and deliberately high end for Russia. Unless it is some long con being played Russia haven’t come across looking strong. The actions this afternoon of talking about nuclear deterrent are the signs of panic. Why would you need to deter someone with super weapons if your conventional forces were so much stronger and you were in a position of strength
