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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Civilians being targeted by the murderous Russian scum.
     
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  2. Fox Mulder

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    The thing is I feel sorry for the Russians military being killed too.
     
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  3. Fox Mulder

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    Iraq wasn't long ago mate....
     
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  4. Albert's Chip Shop

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    when their leader sends them to murder civilians this is a natural by product.

    they could, en mass refuse to fight but don’t.

    a Russian sub commander was once ordered to fire a nuke at the US in the 60’s but refused.. so it is possible.

    personally I want as many Russians to die as possible. The more body bags the more the anti Putin feeling will grow inside Russia.
     
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    irrelevant. It doesn’t matter one jot in the case of this murderous scum invading Ukraine. I can’t go and burgle your house just because someone else burgled another house in the area once a few years ago.
     
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    Its interesting that other European countries and the USA are still offering to send military aid to Ukraine. How the **** do they get the stuff to them?
     
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  7. Rum & Black for 2

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    Seriously, wake up and smell the coffee.

    The West hasn’t declared two parts of the Ukraine as independent. The West hasn’t sent troops into Ukraine. The West isn’t physically attacking Ukraine. The West hasn’t killed any Ukrainian citizens or soldiers. Russia has done all of these.

    I don’t care about who is slanting what facts in reporting as the key facts are those above and they aren’t slanted. I don’t care if Russia feels threatened by the direction Ukraine was taking politically, it’s not Russia’s choice. Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing justifies what they have done and are doing.

    Those are the simple facts when you ignore all the flannel. Anything else is fudging. The West should be doing more but it doesn’t change the basic facts. The Western press are biased but it doesn’t change the basic facts. The USA are trying to extend their sphere of influence but it still doesn’t change the basic facts.

    Russia are in the wrong and the rest of the World should be helping Ukraine put things right. Putin is pushing his luck because we are all too scared to do what is necessary and he knows it. If Ukraine agree the United Nations should put together a substantial military force and send it in to the Ukraine and kick the Russians out. The rest of the World’s military might combined is bigger than Russia’s. It may seem extreme but we should learn from history that that is the only way to deal with a bully and psycho like Putin.
     
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  8. Fox Mulder

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    There seems to be some confusion on here. It appears anyone that's looking at the bigger picture and shining a light on our own counties antics is being confused with them defending this horrific invasion in some way.

    I'm going to make it clear that nobody has or is defending it and there's nothing wrong with anything they're saying.

    What the west wants if for the east to be a good little puppy and they've quite clearly had enough of Americas bullshit.

    This is the real world! We've been on a good roll for 80 years apart from the quiet little enterprises we've been embarking on anyway.

    It's not about Ukraine it's about reforming the Soviet Union and not playing second fiddle to the Yanks . If you keep chipping away at someone eventually they'll throw the kitchen sink at you.

    It's the people in the streets I care about and unfortunately that's who pays the ultimate price for rich people arguing over money.

    They're all ****s and Putin is a psychopath on top of that.
     
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  9. Fox Mulder

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    Come on jj mate

    It's the rich scumbags I want to die.

    Normal folk no
     
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  10. Albert's Chip Shop

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    If we lived in the 40’s would you want the SS concentration camps to survive and just wish game on the Nazi leadership?

    there was a video yesterday of a Russian laughing his head off as he fired rockets into a built up area. **** needs a double tap to the temple from Mr Glock.

    as I said, I hope every Russian soldier dies horribly on the streets of Ukraine. They chose to walk across the border shooting. They knew the risk.
     
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  11. Prince Isak (GG)

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    I think this may happen. Sounds like the Russian people are quite shocked and devastated about what is happening.
     
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    You'll never get this across they read too much Daily Mail and watch BBC News. We’ve clearly provoked Russia. Why is probably very complicated. It doesn’t make Putin right in what he’s doing. What is the point of NATO? Why was it set up? The name is quite revealing in itself. It begins with the words North Atlantic. Why are Ukraine, the Baltic states joining such an organisation? The West is keen to expand east right up to the Russian borders and have done since the end of WWII. It should stop doing that. Why does the US have bio labs all over the Ukraine for instance? Why do they have military installations all over Europe? People are up in arms from the Russians having military bases set up within their own borders.

    As you correctly note it doesn’t make what’s happening right and Putin is way too aggressive. However until people show the same anger towards their governments behaviours this type of **** will keep happening. It’s hypocrisy of the highest order. It’s incredible we are not more civil, demilitarised and more open this far into our existence. Unfortunately it’s countries like ourselves, the US, Russia, China etc and the greed of its leaders that prevents us progressing.
     
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  13. Fox Mulder

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    Well I don't I feel sorry for them all on both sides.

    Perhaps another occupation would've been better, but every country needs a military and they all have loved ones and family to feed.

    Like I say its the rich bastards pulling the strings I want to die.
     
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    Dare I ask why?

    Because they are just following orders?
     
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    Anyone had a look at Chelsea's perspective
    I don't see many Sunlund Human rights activists on there

    https://www.not606.com/threads/are-we-in-real-danger-of-losing-our-owner.399143/


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    Do you expect to have protests against Chelsea from opposing fans in the near future?

    Probably from the ratbag fringe , but most fans would understand the Club is more than the owners. The Glazers at Utd. and the Saudis at Newcastle are not in it for the love of the sport, but Abramovich has convinced most people that's he is..

    Chelsea Pensioner, Yesterday at 10:20 PM
     
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  16. Prince Isak (GG)

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    I agree 99% with this with the only Caveat being that it’s Putin who is making the calls here and not Russia per say.

    If he is taken out of the equation then I think none of this happens. I think Russia’s people may be part of the solution in this respect somehow.

    If we (nato) retaliate with force then the Russian people suffer. We have to cripple the country somehow without death.

    And Putin needs ended.
     
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    They've got this weird flag waving tunnel vision in which we're the good guys and and they're the bad guys and that's that.

    Britain will sit at home as happy as a pig in **** while we blow up other people's children, but the minute Russia does it they're acting like mother Theresa.

    Give me a break aye! Is it really too much to ask for us to criticise both evils? I don't understand whats wrong with that.

    Because I'm not a moron tbh.<laugh>

    Did you and the rest wish for our boys to be killed?

    On remembrance day I have a minutes silence for ALL the lives lost in wars including the Germans.
     
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    The solution is simple. Putin needs taken out. That’s where the focus should be.
     
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  19. Albert's Chip Shop

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    deluded ****s.

    that’s cherry picking what to be offended about.

    the Mackems would have no issue at all turning a blind eye to Chelsea. The fact that Roman is the only owner to be banned from the UK says a lot.

    me personally? I’m consistent. I won’t be shouting against Roman. Like I don’t against City or Everton with their so called dodgy cash.
    I suspect that other London clubs will be more vocal though.
     
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  20. Albert's Chip Shop

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    All Germans?

    so Goeebels?

    hoess?

    Eichmann?

    Mengele?
     
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