There is an upturn in young lads going to games with their mates and enthusiasticly supporting their teams, partying on concourses and generally enjoying post lockdown fun etc not sure they all need arresting by the fun police though?
I don't remember thousands of Coke heads charging Wembley disabled access points at euro. 96. If Football arrests are up from last year then its hard to argue that it's heading in the right direction.
So you missed the Scotch at Wembley, and various other bits and bobs up and down the Country. It's clear you're determined to believe we're living in violent times, so I'll leave you to it.
Coaches bricked at FC games were ignored or put down to City fans with nothing to do. Incidents involving the fans of both our RL teams at away games are not mentioned in our local media or downplayed. If a City fan ran on to the pitch at the MKM and stuck the boot into someone what would happen? Would it just be a £60 on the spot fine, no court appearance and be back at the next game as no banning order was issued as happened to this one? please log in to view this image
The steward presence at the MKM is a joke. Thing is, they’re powerless to do much anyway. The police had to escort the knobhead who chucked the bottle against Fulham out. The stewards just stand around like a spare part with gormless expressions on their faces and getting in people’s way.
By historical standards possibly not, but the statistical and anecdotal evidence seems to suggest it is on the rise. And it needs stamping out. We know where it leads.
Anecdotal evidence counts for nothing. Statistical evidence for league games - got any? And of arrests how many are actually violence related?
Well to be fair (since I used the argument the other way round) I haven't seen any data to back up what you're saying However what you describe is my experience of the concourse too And it's great isn't it! The other week some of them were playing football with the Police, using an empty bottle as a 'ball' Bloody hooligans...
That's got nothing to do with it. Grimsby Town were not involved at the time in a campaign to win back fans like City are at the moment. DB knows full well that City are pushing tickets at £2 each for Tuesday nights home game. A report might be out that reports of misbehaviour at football is on the increase, which is fair enough, but crowds are up to, and its just as easy to talk about the attraction of football as it is to talk about yobbish behaviour by a tiny minority. But of course it's the 'increase in football hooliganism' that that becomes the subject, not that City's gates are on the increase. And lets be honest the City connections were of a bottle thrown on the pitch and half a dozen broken seats at Sheffield Utd on Tuesday night but he got a full show out of that and even managed to turn it into news for the hourly news broadcasts. For those who say a show like this on local radio highlighting a very, very tiny problem, which then turns into news, doesn't effect ticket sales, tell me then how many more people would be tempted to go out and buy one after listening to that rubbish for over an hour ?
According to an article being discussed this morning (joint investigation by The Times and Talksport), there's been a 50% increase in arrests, primarily due to a massive increase in drug offences at football matches.
Okay, so. We should censor topical news via the local Media for the good of the club. Stategy worked out well for the Allams didn't it?
Fair enough. I hadn't seen anything myself Although not condoning it I still wouldn't think of illegal drug use as 'hooliganism' in its own right though. (otherwise there'd surely be huge Police operations and banning orders in the House of Commons?)
I remember a couple of on the spot fines handed out after the Hull derby at Craven Park when fans of both clubs got onto the pitch to fight and photographs appeared in the HDM of someone kicking someone in the head who was laid on the floor. I also saw on youtube, not the HDM or Look North the pitch invasion when Salford and HKR fans clashed after the million pound game. Don't remember any court cases. I do remember jail; sentences handed out to several City fans who fought back against Huddersfield fans on Walton Street car park after a game. Huddersfield fans who were banned from travelling and who hid behind bushes before attacking anyone leaving the match. I think only one Huddersfield fan managed to get himself arrested and received a fine.
Bother at the darts ay?.....whatever next? Betty and ada fighting at the knitting circle over who arthur is gunna scuttle next....what's the world coming to
If it is topical news at all is debatable. I'd say it is also topical that Tuesday nights attendance could show that the new owners have doubled our crowd in less then a month. DB has been plugging todays show on 'the increase in hooliganism at football' all week. He could have covered it at any time. He knows full well the efforts the new owners are doing to win the crowds back, The new owners who let him back into the ground, and he knows any hint of football hooliganism puts people off. Just listen to some of the callers. It's just my opinion but I don't think he did himself or City any favours this morning.
I saw a video last week of a fist fight in the seats in a London theatre, drink related probably, the comments that followed is that it’s a common occurrence in theatres all over London, now it’s expensive to watch a play, so you would assume that these aren’t youths from the local council estates, but rather well off tossers. My point being, there are no banning orders in place for theatres, concerts etc, but the level of violence is connected with alcohol is prevalent at any mass gathering in the UK, we just love to scrap don’t we?
People have been locked away for 2 years I am not surprised the white powder and booze is flowing. Not condoning blatant drug use but like everything it will calm down unless Oasis get back together and do a World tour then **** will really hit the fan.