Amber Nectar fell upon it, the figures issued on a matchday were 20% higher than the figures issued in the year-end accounts.
****in hell. Everyone knows by know, you certainly do. He was hung out to dry. Public talk by the owners about spending money, but behind closed doors he had none to spend and had to maintain the lie. When he very slightly implied at the end of the season that the club needed to be a bit better in the transfer market, they suspended him.
He was sacked for 'misleading comments' made in relation to having a lack of funds, the board disputed that and subsequently fired him.At the time of his sacking he appealed and as far as I'm aware envoked legal proceedings. How did he get on with them?
My point is, you are quite clearly insinuating that Barmby should have been thankful to the Allams for the opportunity of being manager when he was under qualified. Further, he should excuse all subsequent behaviour. As you've said, we don't know what happened, what if he never wanted to be manager in the first place? There are claims here that he should 'move on'. Isn't that what he did? He is under no obligation to be around the club if he doesn't like the owners, or if he feels like they screwed him over.
Of course he took a pay cut to come here. Leeds wanted him off the pay role and he was massive signing for us. On par, if not bigger then the Billy Bremner signing in the 70's. No-one is arguing about that ? How do you know he was treated appallingly after he started the managers job ? All I remember is something about signing or not signing Billy Sharp at the time, who wouldn't have been the worse signing we have ever made as it turned out. Unless you know differently ?
So what are you arguing about. ? I'm sure Nick could speak up for himself and if he didn't fancy the move up into management at the time he should have said so. As it turned out he kept stum about every thing that did or did not happen which is more of a credit to him. Now he fancies an afternoon in the pub and watching his local team, so good luck to him. If he fancies something more from the club I'm sure he's intelligent enough to speak up for himself. I think he's happy doing what he is doing now and it is good to see him back supporting the club though.
He took another pay cut when he became manager instead of a player, that's what I talking about, not the huge one he took to come here as a player. The fact you remember the Billy Sharp thing is exactly the point. Everyone remembers that we didn't sign anyone that window when some good players might've been available. Barmby was made to take the public hit for that even though what he was saying in private at the time was that he wasn't allowed to sign anyone. I suppose you could believe he was lying and the Allams were telling the truth, but with their respective records, why on earth would you.
There doesn't always have to be a lie or a disagreement, and the truth often is to be found half way between the two but does it matter now ? It's history. Gone and until Nick was snapped by the HDM, forgotten.
He never said it 'in private' though did he? That's why the situation escalated to his dismissal,if it had of been private then it wouldn't have ended up as it did? Don't you respect anyone's opinion if they look at both sides of a situation?Are we to take a myopic view of anything and everything that the Allams ever did? Why the **** are they still topical just about every day on here? They've Gone!!
I don't understand, how am I arguing? I'm just pointing out that I don't see how your points about how Barmby should be thankful to the Allams regardless of what else happens stack up. I don't even know how this conversation started in the first place. I'm sure Nick could speak up, but he's hardly likely to do it on here is he?
Yes he was saying in private that he wasn't allowed to sign players but had to pretend there was money available. The more public comments you're thinking of are when he said in an interview after our final game of the season that "we need to be a bit cuter" when he was asked about transfers. That's what he was sacked for. Again, the lasting memory of that for many people is that he said something a lot stronger, but he didn't. I'm quite happy to never talk about the Allams again, you won't find me bringing them up all the time. However, I can't promise to ignore it when you and the one or two others who always love to see the best in them keep on promoting them.
There’s been some really stupid, sentimental appointments in football in recent years. Solskjær becoming Man U manager and every **** who played there since the 90s getting a nice cushty job as well. Arteta at Arsenal; Lampard at Chelsea. Those are just the most high-profile examples. Wearing the shirt for a decent stint and being liked by the fans doesn’t qualify you to coach the club.
Your post was reasonable up to your last sentence..It then descended into farce and you talking utter ****e!!!
fWIW I recall at the Jan transfer window he wanted to spend money fairly substantial but the Allams didn’t - they suggested that as Reading had loaned a premiership forward can’t quite remember his name ? Roberts? though who was getting them into a promotion position Barmby could have been more imaginative . In other words pay someone big for 4-5 months but not buy Someone on a three year gamble. Barmby then suggested loosely they didn’t have the money - ya don’t insult an Arab it’s all about face . After that there was no way he’d keep his job. The truth regarding money will only be known by them and Nick - if at all
Leeds were stillpaying him a lot under his contract when he came here. His wife is very rich in her own right isn't she? Won't have been struggling.
I see you've opened a fresh barrel of nonsense and poured it into a bucket. Half our support? Really? The last full season before the name change fiasco started was 12-13, avg attendance of 17,369. The next season after that in the championship was 15-16 when the attendance after half our support had removed itself was ... er... 17,199. In a season when we finished two places lower. Once back in the second tier in 17-18 attendances did start to fall , but so did our league position going 15,622 (18th), 12,165 (13th) and 11,553 (bottom). There's no doubt some people did stay away, but a lot of the fall was due to the results being worse and in any case it wasn't half. This season we've had an average of 11,366 under the Allams and 13,587 in the brief period of new ownership. I'd say a couple of thousand sounds about the maximum I would have expected to be due to disillusion with the owners rather than with the quality of the football.
