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The Royals

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Disco down under, Feb 15, 2022.

  1. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

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    This has been a civil case, where the burden of proof required is less.
     
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  2. rowley

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    It's a sign of the sinister approach of twitter.

    If they censor, they are publishers and should be treated as such.
     
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  3. Sunderpitt

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    I would always like to think of myself as patriotic and I love my country and my native NE.

    I also appreciate what Liz has done over the past 70 years.

    However once she has 'popped her clogs' , so to speak, the idea of idiot 'big-ears' taking over is frankly ridiculous, his sister Anne is the only one with any gumption. Or skip a generation and let William and Kate get on with it.

    So personally the whole monarchy, house of lords etc needs a re-think, although having an honorary President may have some problems.

    Met investigating cash-for-honours claims linked to Prince’s Foundation
    Metropolitan police have launched investigation into allegations linked to Prince Charles charity

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    Prince Charles, who established the Prince’s Foundation charity. Photograph: Reuters



    The Metropolitan police have launched an investigation into cash-for-honours allegations linked to the Prince of Wales’s charity the Prince’s Foundation.

    Scotland Yard said in a statement: “The Metropolitan police service has launched an investigation into allegations of offences under the Honours (Prevention of Abuses) Act 1925.



    “The decision follows an assessment of a September 2021 letter. This related to media reporting alleging offers of help were made to secure honours and citizenship for a Saudi national.

    “The Special Enquiry Team has conducted the assessment process which has included contacting those believed to hold relevant information.

    “Officers liaised with the Prince’s Foundation about the findings of an independent investigation into fundraising practices. The foundation provided a number of relevant documents
     
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  4. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    No they like to visit Buckingham palace etc.

    The royal family bring in a massive revenue to this country.
     
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  5. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I went to Versailles. I didn't go for the fifteen Louis'.

    Plenty of country without royals do just fine in bringing in tourism cash.
     
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  6. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I find it bizarre that that is a thing.
     
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    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Ohhhhhhh
    The grand old Duke of York
    He borrowed 12 million quid
    He gave it to someone
    He’d never ever met
    and for something he never did
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, all the above is vomit inducing.
     
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  9. Dancingstripes

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    The fact is, the royals are a massive tourist attraction in our country.

    What you get up to in Versailles is completely irrelevant.
     
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  10. Disco down under

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    No it's directly relevant in that I went out my way to see a palace that was formerly home to a royal dynasty.

    I would have thought the relevance was blindingly obvious.

    I don't buy the people come to see the royals spiel. It always gets trotted out in such conversations. Seems people have been saying it for decades (Sex Pistols).

    I don't know where it comes from. I don't think I have ever met a tourist who came to Britain because of the royals.
     
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    They happen here too. Quite often.

    Many are settled out of court.
     
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    I just think that's an absolute breakdown of the criminal justice system.

    Either you're guilty or you're not. Either you ought to be properly punished or not.

    Buying your way out of trouble just feels insane.
     
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    Hmm. I'm pretty certain that a lot are attracted by the presence of a very visible, high profile, still extant, Royal family though (especially in comparison to a lot of the surviving European Royal families which are very low-key), not to mention the pomp and ceremony surrounding them. To some people there is a very real difference to visiting a palace where the Queen lives to visiting a palace where a Queen (or King) lived. If anyone was to say that the royal family are an anachronism, I'd agree, but that's what makes them interesting for people and the UK unique.
     
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    Theg don't comectk see the Royals, which us just as well as they never do.

    But huge amounts really do come to see places and buildings attached to the monarchy and it's history.
    Whether or not they would still come if they were all hoyed out and given a flat in Lambeth Borough each is not known of course
     
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    3-4 million people visit royal residences annually, that’s facts for you.

    those 3-4 million people will also stay at hotels, eat in restaurants, use taxis etc.

    Buckingham palace is one of the biggest tourist attractions in the world.
     
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    I dont know and have never met Prince Andrew
    I claim my £10M
    :emoticon-0116-evilg
     
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    "10 million visitors

    With nearly 10 million visitors every year, Versailles is one of the most visited historic sites in the world"

    Sounds like we ought to storm a prison, chop the royals heads off, write a big novel/opera about the ordeal and the tourism will triple.
     
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    Civil cases do not normally have a jury, though I think some matters do require one. Assault and so on, but you'd need more knowledge than I have for that.

    Those that are settled out of court are often because the claimant is expected to win. That's here mind, I don't know about in the States, where really the Law should be avoided at almost all cost .

    They go to a civil court because there is not sufficient proof beyond all reasonable doubt and all that in a criminal court. One can follow the other.

    Criminal guilt may mean a long prison term. Guilt in a civil case cannot.
     
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    Is Versailles open year round though? I'd imagine so. As a functioning Royal residence, Buckingham Palace is only open to the public for a short spell each summer.
     
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  20. Sunderpitt

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    Or they really are past their sell by date.

    FFS we still have a 2nd chamber with heredity members..., and appointees by the ruling party on the commons...

    We may or may not be the mother of parliaments (Ancient Greeks might argue the point), but one thing is sure we have not modernised for centuries, party cos the deadening effect of the 'Royals"
     
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