1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

New / Next Manager Feb 2022

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Wes, Feb 1, 2022.

  1. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2015
    Messages:
    8,181
    Likes Received:
    15,883
    Yeah, I agree with most of that. The replacement should have been brought in quicker. Can't help but think that chasing Keane has led to that situation though.
     
    #3841
    Whittylad, clockstander and Chip like this.
  2. APC

    APC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2020
    Messages:
    1,543
    Likes Received:
    2,872
    Can’t believe there’s not even a peep from the club yet, fed up
     
    #3842
    Whittylad, Mr Tickle and West Winger like this.
  3. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2019
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    10,341
    No one knows anything about any negotiations.

    The assumption that Keane is somehow holding a gun to the club's head is pure speculation.

    It was not Keane who said there would be second interviews - an utterly ludicrous idea anyway if the club were prepared - or him who bangs on about process and models.

    I can imagine any interview with Speakman being a long winded affair where he might take ten minutes to say good morning, ( but don't hold him to it though).

    No one knows, and if it happens to be that Keane wants the job but only if he is the manager then that seems fair enough to me. Don't ask him if you just want a bloke to ape your meanigless jargon .

    There is clearly a role for a DOF kind of individual at a club. But unless you are an experienced hand at it , the role should be limited.

    This bloke, from running the youth teams at a smaller club looks to have too much influence. And he's not looking good at using it.
     
    #3843
    Whittylad, Mr Tickle and clockstander like this.
  4. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2019
    Messages:
    3,677
    Likes Received:
    10,341
    E

    The club has a voice, which is heard often enough in the form of the garrulous Speakman. They could have used it anytime they wanted, and they didn't.
     
    #3844
    West Winger likes this.
  5. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2015
    Messages:
    8,181
    Likes Received:
    15,883
    No, no one knows anything about the negotiations. So, yes, the idea that Keane is holding the club to ransom is speculation, although its based on Keane's own statement that "the contract has to be right". Much of your argument appears to be based on your impression of Speakman. But that's also just specualtion based on the fact that he doesn't speak in the usual clichés.
     
    #3845
  6. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2020
    Messages:
    7,531
    Likes Received:
    16,622
    I agree. My point was when you look back, we're small time instead of going for people like you say that have been there a done it. Tbf he won leauge one with a much better squad then ours with a load of Championship players. Norwich do it all the time, Rotherham have managed to keep pretty much last seasons Championship squad.Its a different kettle of fish up here.
     
    #3846
    The Norton Cat likes this.
  7. West Winger

    West Winger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    467
    I’ve dealt with lots of bullshit managers and they all speak like that when they have nothing of substance to them.
     
    #3847
  8. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2015
    Messages:
    8,181
    Likes Received:
    15,883
    I'm sure we all have but you can't base what goes on behind the scenes on a handful of soundbites.
     
    #3848
  9. TeamOfTalents

    TeamOfTalents Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2019
    Messages:
    3,327
    Likes Received:
    5,243
    Deodoran2 over road saying Speakman digging in heels held up things. Genuine poster, definitely gets info
     
    #3849
  10. West Winger

    West Winger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    467
    If the club isn’t going to say anything then that’s their fault for causing the vacuum in the first place.
     
    #3850
    rowley likes this.

  11. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2020
    Messages:
    7,531
    Likes Received:
    16,622
    I'm sure it will all work out in the end. It'll. not be long before the new manager is appointed, followed by "It's a massive club" "back where it belongs" "hard work" "honour to be here" "jumped at the chance" sound bites start.

    Jokes aside, we'll be OK.

    FTM
     
    #3851
    Whittylad, Gromit, rowley and 2 others like this.
  12. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2020
    Messages:
    7,531
    Likes Received:
    16,622
    One more thing, it's funny how when one reporter Tweets it isn't as close as people think, they're automatically dick heads and full of ****...... turns out....
     
    #3852
  13. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    64,814
    Likes Received:
    150,390
    I remember when Quinn was absolutely managing badly, floundering and things were as bad, if not worse than now ...

    ... no idea what would've happened to us if Keane hadn't been persuaded to come.
     
    #3853
    Whittylad, rowley, SAFC2403 and 7 others like this.
  14. TonyG

    TonyG Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2019
    Messages:
    2,691
    Likes Received:
    8,465
    Got a bit of goosebumps there :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
    #3854
    Whittylad likes this.
  15. He's very disparaging towards KS...bit surprised tbh.
     
    #3855
  16. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2020
    Messages:
    7,531
    Likes Received:
    16,622
    I agree. It was Keane wife that changed his mind.
     
    #3856
    Whittylad and Smug in Boots like this.
  17. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    487
    Likes Received:
    591
    I can't help but wonder whether the current impasse with appointing a new manager has in fact been created by Keane throwing his hat in the ring in a way that took the hierarchy by surprise.
     
    #3857
  18. Iain

    Iain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2020
    Messages:
    1,490
    Likes Received:
    5,554
    I love Keane but I've said before I'm not sure he's the right option long term however I honestly believe he's the only option that can salvage anything from this season.
    Speakmen talks his **** about data this and data that for coaches aswell as players, so how come if this data is so good at picking out who is going to be the next best coach, everyone they've interviewed is available right now.
    Surely it would have picked someone up that we could try to sign from another club.
    But no apparently the data shows the best coaches are on the ****ing dole
     
    #3858
    Ronsafc, rowley, D-K and 2 others like this.
  19. Gazj2k

    Gazj2k Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2019
    Messages:
    509
    Likes Received:
    786
    The silence from ITK and the actual club is deafening.
     
    #3859
    Billy Batts likes this.
  20. country_roads

    country_roads Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2019
    Messages:
    179
    Likes Received:
    341
    Possible alternative spin like
     
    #3860

Share This Page