It is more reassuring if that is the way they see it. I'll be less uncomfortable with it if its confirmed that its only a short-term deal. Bringing him in to do a specific job would be less of an apparent deviation from the model.
In my mind automatic promotion is gone, Wigan and Rotherham are too far ahead with games in hand. LJ was tripping up too often so we needed a change, 6-0 to Bolton could’ve taken the players weeks to get over and buggered their minds for the play offs as well. Bringing in Defoe and Keane straight after can give them an immediate lift and neutralise any negativity in their heads. For me it’s a brilliant reaction by whoever came up with it. It may not work but it’s given me the hope I had lost. KTF HTL
But would it be a deviation from the plan? Let's face it even Pep and Klopp work to a director of football type model Perhaps we can look upon this as accelerating the plan by a couple of managers / head coaches I'm going to have dial back this confidence thing
This. We need promotion and to get it we have to have a manager who can motivate and get the best from the players. It is a short term fix,for a short term problem,not at all a deviation away from the longer term model. In fact,it could be argued that if we don't put in a short term fix,we going to lose a lot of the players the model has got us,and so would be failed anyway and need a fresh start. The short term fix is complementary to the longer term model,not contradictory to it. I was advocating Warnock yesterday,but Keane is even better. Also,I don't know Keane,but I think he's an intelligent man,who will know he is going to have to fit in with the longer term plan if we get promoted and he wants to stay and build from there. The structure is in place and he will have to accept it.
I mean if it goes well it would be silly not to have the option to extend but likewise, if not, someone who you refer too maybe the one.
This is sort of what my issue with it is. Its not so much that even Pep and Klopp operate under this kind of model, its that this kind of model is how modern, continental clubs and British clubs at the top of the tree operate. Keane has, throughout his managerial and coaching career, been associated with what can be considered to be the traditional British model of management set up. I have always been very much on board with KLD's implementation of the new model, particularly because it looked like we'd be operating the Barcelona approach whereby the coach is appointed on his suitability to fit in to the philosophy and not on his reputation or public profile. As exciting as Keane's football was last time around, I don't associate him with the attacking, possession-based game that I thought we were looking for, but more with double pivots and fast transitions.
We will know by lunchtime. Keano won’t hang about If he doesn’t want the job he will let us know soon
I have seen some people say he fell out with Short because he did not move to the region let’s be fair he has a young ish family settled in the north west. It is now 15 years on they will be moved out now and he has grandchildren so there is nothing to stop his wife from coming up with him for a week he is up here allowing him to spend more time at the club. Not saying he will but that will not play a factor in his decision making anymore I presume
keane strikes me as someone who knows his mind and quickly……I’d be surprised if we don’t know either way today
So here's a glimpse of Keanes management stats if anybody is interested looking? Nothing there fills me with excitement really, infact far from it. I really dont see the obsession some fans have in getting him back like he's going to be some kind of saviour?
Last time at SAFC he took a club bottom for the championship to the title in 6 months and then comfortable safety (15th) in the PL before walking out early the next year. If Graham Potter did that now (never actually been promoted from the championship, never finished higher than 15th in the Prem) they’d be ****ing their cocks off over him
I can understand people’s uncertainty, and I agree to some extent this is a gamble. However if you look at our current squad, they have the obvious skill and experience to win this league outright, where we lack is in mental strength and that has been clear for the last few years. Enter Roy Keane, a man with a never say die attitude a serial winner in his career and you only have to look at his previous stint in the championship where he took us from second bottom to champions. Man management you never lose, instilling that extra 20% into your workforce you never lose, just the mere sight of him in the dressing room will have the young lads wanting to impress from day one. wasn’t it a certain Jordan Henderson who said if it wasn’t for Roy Keane he wouldn’t be where he is today? Think of what he could do with Neil and Embleton? Then on top of that, Roy Keane always said teams were beaten in the tunnel at Old Trafford before a ball was even kicked, that is what a serial winner with a positive mental attitude brings. When we play Rotherham and Wigan, potentially the reverse psychology works against them, under LJ we would of rolled over and had our belly’s tickled. Not with Roy Keane, the team will be running through brick walls and 10 minutes into injury time. he will appoint football people to assist him and get us out of this league, and if we do fall short of automatics, I couldn’t think of anyone better to be mentally prepared to get us up via the play offs. Haway Roy, your time has come!
Probably. As for the plan we all talk about, it's okay having one, but if it's inflexible it's not much use. There's a world that fights back. Much like say, playing from the back. Good idea but if some team is making it unworkable, you have to be able to change tack. City are certainly not averse to turning a team round if the are hustled into it. The first part of the plan was to get up. And it didn't look likely. It might not now, but probably more so with a manager such as Keane IMO. He may have quit those years ago, but he might have been onto something about the club when you look at the time managers have had since then. We'll see, but this might give us a chance we didn't have.
Yes i know he did, everyone keeps banging on about that first season and i DO respect him for that. Once the Keane effect started to wear off though, things slowly turned to shyte.
Think a lot of that second season was the nutters we had in Chimbonda and Diof, totally disrupted the squad.
