Are you talking about the fella who got us promoted when he inherited a 2nd bottom side? Integrated all the staff, cleaners etc. Only reason he left was he expected us to be higher 2nd season in premier league and i repeat premier league and he openly admits he was wrong and should have taken stock. He mentions all the time unfinished business, now is the time to step up. Let's get behind him and the club and not put a downer on it. Let's face it we weren't going up with Johnson. Plus he's been in talks since Monday so Defoe was happy to sign knowing whose taking charge and I trust his judgement KTF
And Roy Keane hasnt been in charge of a team in over 10 years and you are expecting him to won 12-14 games out of 17
Remember when Keane was manager first time around and we scored a lot of winners at the death because he had the team playing right up until the final whistle?
So just to be clear - you don't think there's anything to qualify/recommend Keane for this job (presumably overlooking the time he dragged us from bottom of the Championship to the Premier League, and kept us there), but you would be happy for a bloke with 17 career games as a manager - in Australia no less - to get the job? Have I understood that correctly?
And what qualifies Edwards to be our next manager. Is it his valuable experience managing AFC Telford, Wolves u23 and Forest Green. Give your head a shake
I was 16 when Keano came here last. The club was on its ****ing knees, we'd just been relegated with 15 points and whilst Drumaville had come in Quinny needed someone to turn the tide after an abject start to the season. Roy Keane galvanised the whole club, we showed fight and belief that we hadn't seen for over a year and then the results started coming too. Any promotion sides talk about momentum, and in 2007 following a 1-0 loss at home to Preston we lost just once more all season. If Roy can come in and inspire something similar then we have every single chance of going up. That was such a special season following the lads seeing as what had preceded it, but I can remember that feeling of having the momentum with you and it almost felt like an inevitability that we'd find a way to win. Its a roll of a dice, but if the man can get a grip of the club like he did back then its going to be a really exciting couple of months.
Why not, we're in League 1 near the top, not the near the top of the Championship where the standard is much higher, where he proved himself before. Quinny couldn't do it but Keane took over and the rest is history.
I'd be delighted with Keane if he can work with the sporting director. He's utterly box office. Still. He did well last time but it fell apart because the club was rudderless and had no experience up top. If he can be managed, I have faith that he can manage the squad we have. I dont know why I fancy him. I didn't the last time it was mentioned. Maybe it's Defoe coming back that's got me sentimental. Maybe I'm desperate it's not Warnock. It just feels good to me. There's unfinished business there and he showed a hell of a lot of potential the first time round. I'm on board.
I've already said that I realise that my view isn't the majority view. I find all of this "I want to get out of this **** league" talk both disrespectful and naive. In the same way that I think making disparaging remarks about leagues in other countries is ignorant. Of course the aim is promotion but I don't agree that it is vital that it is this season. I do think that KLD can afford to make a mistake; I am willing to be patient with him. To suggest that I don't want the club to be successful is, frankly, nonsense. I want to see the club build solid foundations that will see it reach its potential and stay there for years to come. That's why I am excited by what KLD appeared to be promising us. To me, Keane doesn't seem to fit with what he has been trying to do. I'm terribly sorry if you don't like that but I'm capable of reaching my own conclusions and I'm not going to change that because everyone else is gettting swept away on a nostalgia trip.
Say he's got 40, what does that change ? It's still as big of gamble betting on him to get us promoted as Keane. There's no guarantees with either of them. If it was beginning of the pre season, then an unknown coach would be fine. Time to get to know the squad, implement his methods etc. But if we want to get promoted this season, with the time we have left, we need a manager/coach who can walk in an galvanize the squad straight away. Keane has got the better chance of doing that. It might backfire, it might go wrong. But you won't convince me that an unknown Australian coach has a better chance of success to get us promoted. Now if Big Sam was in the running, I'd prefer him over Keane. But he isn't so that's that. No other name mentioned so far makes me go "**** yes, he'll get us promoted" Promotion this season has to be the target. The gamble KLD is taking, is that short term promotion to the championship is worth it, as we'll be able to attract a better calibre of coach once we're there (if needed). KLD has gone all in. As soon as he made the decision to sack LJ, he had to go all in, because he obviously sacked him because promotion is the priority. Edit: just because we get Keane in, doesn't mean we throw away the long term plan as you seem to think. The advantage of the setup kld has put in place, is that head coach can be short term. KS gives us the long term stability. Without that setup, sacking LJ would have been a complete mess to do at the end of the window
Like I said in another post, I want to see foundations built and I don't feel the desperate need to be promoted this season. Keane might be a roller coaster ride but I, personally, would be excited by a different kind of appointment. I'm glad everyone is enjoying the prospect of it- getting that kind of joy from your club is what its all about. I am not trying to bring anyone else down and I should maybe stop posting but people keep replying to me. So I apologise, genuinely. If this had been a year or two ago, I would have loved it but its not where I thought we were going.
I just edited my previous post. But basically, I don't think the head coach position is any indication of the long term plans. KS, the recruitment team, and the rest of the setup is the long term plan. Keane (or whoever) will be a coach, not a manager who handles long term strategy and recruitment.
No, you're right, I don't think that they will throw away the background set up- I have said that on other posts. I always said that the point of the system was that the head coach was largely expendable and it was the overall strategy that was key. I still think that Keane isn't at all right for that but, no, I agree that it doesn't necessarily mean that the project is torn up. I know maybe it makes me a bit odd but, personally, I would have found Kisnorbo, Edwards, or one of several others more exciting than Keane. So maybe its just disappointment that it wasn't an appointment like that.
