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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Edelman, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. Plum

    Plum Well-Known Member

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    I enjoyed that too. I'm no historian but I reckon in reality Chamberlain was having to play with a duff hand in 1938, caught between a rock and a hard place. That he died in 1940 didn't help his reputation because Churchill was able to massage the history of the 1930's to suit his own narrative at the expense of Chamberlain.
    Pains me to say it but I think the reason we're not speaking German now is because the US joined in.
     
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  2. Mr Hatem

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    ,,,and the Americans are speaking English because of us ;)
     
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  3. Barchullona

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    Churchill didn't massage things to suit his own narrative, Churchill warned of the danger posed by the Nazis others thought you could deal with Hitler making the mistake of thinking you could deal with Hitler as though you could deal with other statesmen, what Churchill said of Chamberlain after his death was generous and summed up the situation everyone found themselves in at the time.

    "It fell to Neville Chamberlain in one of the supreme crises of the world to be contradicted by events, to be disappointed in his hopes, and to be deceived and cheated by a wicked man. But what were these hopes in which he was disappointed? What were these wishes in which he was frustrated? What was that faith that was abused? They were surely among the most noble and benevolent instincts of the human heart-the love of peace, the toil for peace, the strife for peace, the pursuit of peace, even at great peril, and certainly to the utter disdain of popularity or clamour. Whatever else history may or may not say about these terrible, tremendous years, we can be sure that Neville Chamberlain acted with perfect sincerity according to his lights and strove to the utmost of his capacity and authority, which were powerful, to save the world from the awful, devastating struggle in which we are now engaged. This alone will stand him in good stead as far as what is called the verdict of history is concerned."
     
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  4. Barchullona

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    More to do with the fact Hitler attacked the USSR.
     
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  5. DMD

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    Looked it up after your mention, and just started Episode 3, and I'm enjoying it so far.

    Daughter btw, but if I'm picky, she needs a kebab or three.
     
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    But that's still the original Anglo Saxon language so aren't we all still speaking German anyway ?
     
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  7. rovertiger

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    Nein :emoticon-0145-shake
     
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  8. Barchullona

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    No. English is a mixture of a few languages including Germanic ones. Which is different from German, the language of Germany which did not exist then.
     
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  9. Mr Hatem

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    Wo ist der mann, der mann ist hier.
    Can you understand it?
     
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  10. Barchullona

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    Neil Mann?
     
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  11. Ron Burguvdy

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    Man, man...
     
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  12. Barchullona

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    Uh, huh, it was the Manfreds...
     
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  13. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    He was excellent in that too.
     
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  14. Barchullona

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    He was. Billy Bob Thornton played the role of his life in it. Anyone who hasn't seen it wants to get get hold of the series and watch it, guaranteed enjoyment.
     
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  15. WSTiger

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    Yes he is rivetting. Story line not so great?
     
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  16. WSTiger

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    Well of course it was based on fact but the 2 main characters (the young diplomats were fictional). Chamberlain was portrayed as playing for time to rebuld the British War Machine, And the time he bought did allow us to do that, but, how much of that was in his thinking has been debated by historians. I would like to think that was part of his plan. Perhaps the truth is somewhere in between? An interpretation of history is full of nuances.
     
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  17. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    Indeed, he stands out head and shoulders above the rest.
     
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    BBC3 comes back on tomorrow.
     
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    I always felt this was such a mistake getting rid of it.
     
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  20. Mr Hatem

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    I think they banished it to the internet.
     
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