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  1. The Penguin

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    I cycle as near the kerb as possible, and have been cycling for 60-odd years without mishap. The cyclists who get killed or injured are the ones who do everything by the book and think that will protect them. The streetwise kids who go up one way streets the wrong way and go up on the pavement don't get a scratch.
     
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  2. lardiman

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    It's the worst example I've ever seen of asking people to follow daft rules, when those rules will clearly put them in harms way.
    As I mentioned earlier, far worse than 'smart motorways' and they're bad enough.

    What's the point of being technically in the right according to a rule book, when you're in hospital with 20 broken bones - or in a wooden box.
    Unbelievable idiocy.
     
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  3. Ubedizzy

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    That’s all fine. It means I don’t have to steer so far to the left to knock them off anymore
     
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    Sorry Penguin, I didn’t see your reply before I wrote my one. Obviously I’d make an exception for you <peacedove>
     
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  5. The Penguin

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    No problems
     
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  6. lardiman

    lardiman The truth is out there
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    Another day, another party <cracker>

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60121572

    First we had the denials.
    Then we had the "outrage" at what they apparently didn't know was going on.
    Then we had embarrassed admissions and a show of contrition.
    Now at last we have casual admissions, and a kind of arrogant downplaying & dismissal.

    Were these really parties? <doh>
    Just like when Cummings took off for his round the UK jaunt, No.10 has fallen back on treating the public like fools.

    The Lockdown rules were obviously only supposed to apply to dumb folks out on the streets.
    The clever and the powerful could just sidestep them, and excuse themselves with technicalities and dissembling.
    Rules are for fools.
    So much for "we're all in this together".

    All you people out there who lost loved ones and couldn't go to their funerals;
    Be comforted by the fact that Boris and his party guests were laughing at you all the time.
     
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    Looks like these stories will keep emerging until Boris calls it a day.
     
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    He's just releasing the stories to stop the Sue Gray enquiry ever ending.
     
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  9. Ubedizzy

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    Apparently some work colleagues bought the Prime Minister a birthday cake and gave it to him……and because of that thousands of people couldn’t visit their loved ones in care homes or have a knees up after a funeral and lots of business’s went bust. It probably led to hundreds of extra deaths as well and delayed the vaccine rollout for weeks or maybe even months. And all this at a time when not a single other person in the whole country broke any of the Covid restrictions.

    I should imagine that the British public would not have voted for Brexit if they’d have known what would happen with the birthday cake, so let’s sack the Prime Minister and rejoin the EU at the same time. We know they’d take us back because they are our friends and were all very sad when we left.

    Anyway, onto some proper news……….this will be a proper test of the British justice system…….

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60088244

    Legally there is no reason why this man should have been arrested. Of course there has to be an investigation but the facts seem pretty clear to me….The driver was acting in the defence of a girl who was about to be murdered by the evil bastard who was sitting on her and stabbing her repeatedly with a large kitchen knife and bystanders had been unable to get the knife off of him.

    Anything less than this mans release within 48 hours and the CPS coming out to state that there is no evidence against him will be a failure in my opinion.

    And perhaps airmiles Andy, or spoilt brat Harry or gold digger Meghan could donate their Jubilee medals to this proper hero.
     
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  10. lardiman

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    Nasty case that one.
    I heard that all the parties involved knew each other.
    If true, that will complicate matters.

    As for Partygate - clever move by Boris to get the Police involved.
    I know it's being reported that the cops are getting involved because of evidence supplied by Sue Gray, but they would not launch an investigation if No.10 didn't want one. Cressida "nine bob note" Dick knows which side her bread is buttered.

    This will probably delay the civil service report for a week or two, and we already know what the rozzers are going to say;
    :police: "move along, nothing to see here".

    And that of course will take all the sting out of the report, even if it isn't a whitewash.
    Boris supporters will just dismiss any embarrassing findings, and point to the fact the Old Bill found nothing wrong.

    Game, set & match to No.10
    Well played Boris <applause>
    Is this Administration above the law?
    You bet they are.
     
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  11. Ubedizzy

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    Don’t think there’s anything saying the car driver knew either of the others, unless someone knows differently ?

    The woman had been stabbed several times in the chest before the driver ran the other male over. Don’t think she could possibly have survived that, but she was still alive so the car drivers actions are 100% justified to try to save her life in the only way possible.

    It’s now being reported that once the man with the knife had been hit and was pinned under the car he was asking members of the public to help him. I know what help I would have given him had I been there.
     
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  12. Ubedizzy

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    All very conspiracy theory. The fact is that Sue Gray has no remit or authority to investigate criminal allegations so there is no way that she can do that. It has to be the Police that do that. Let’s wait to see what they say first. Maybe if they conclude that Boris hasn’t broken any laws then maybe he hasn’t broken any laws. It might be as simple that.

    Obviously someone has broken the law amongst the civil servants, but let’s get this into perspective. Tens of thousands of ordinary people were doing the same, so please let’s not kid ourselves that everyone else was a saint and please BBC stop wheeling out Labour supporters to describe how upset they are that they couldn’t have a massive funeral for a loved one whilst Boris was having a birthday cake presented to him.
     
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    Nothing else for the police to do anyway.
     
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  14. Ubedizzy

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    To be fair they are very busy investigating all those ‘hate’ crimes
     
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  15. The Penguin

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    Not to mention the number of Met officers who face various charges of a sexual nature.
    What bothers me as a Labour supporter is that Keir Starmer &co are focussing exclusively on Boris. There is a cost of living crisis, many people are facing extreme hardship, "heat or eat" is a genuine choice for a growing number of people, and will be getting worse. They should feel able to look to Labour for support, but tbh Labour and Libdem leaders look far to happy to focus on Boris's tawdry behaviour and excuses. Enjoying it just a bit too much for my liking. It's noticeable that this doesn't apply to the Scottish MP's. I hope this week's PMQ's is an improvement on last week, when there was only one question about the cost of living crisis, and Boris brushed it aside.
     
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  16. Ubedizzy

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    Agreed. There are far more important issues at the moment than whether Boris knew about his birthday cake or if he stayed in the garden for 20 minutes or 25 minutes, but if you watch or listen to the BBC, C4 or ITV news there is nothing else to worry about apparently. It’s just a witch hunt now, when we should be discussing the more important issues.

    Over 1,000 illegal migrants have crossed the channel already this year - in January, can you imagine what it’s going to be like next summer ?

    Energy prices may well double or triple once the cap ends in April.

    The NHS is losing the staff it can’t afford to lose.The Police have given up enforcing most street level laws. The work lives of millions of Britons has changed forever. The prisons are all full. We might have a new war in Europe. But oh no, let’s make the main headline news all about Boris and his misdemeanours. The bloke’s not a bloody murderer he’s just an out of touch buffoon but how many politicians aren’t ?
     
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    Whatever the outcome of the Police inquiry or the Civil Service report, it is clear that there is a culture of drinks parties and drinking at work in general at No.10 under this Prime Minister.

    Has such a culture always existed?
    Or is it a new feature since the last election.

    It's pretty clear too - from that leaked video of the laughing PR guru - that there is no culture of humility or sense of service at No.10
    They obviously feel themselves to be superior to the rest of us, and that they can more or less please themselves.
    Preferably behind closed doors, but if they are found out it doesn't unduly bother them.

    There will be no fines. No cautions.
    Insufficient evidence they will say.
    Then whatever Sue Gray's report says it won't matter.
    Once effectively 'debunked' by the lack of police action, her report will be dismissed as a nit-picking witch hunt.
     
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  18. Ubedizzy

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    I suspect that this has been the culture for a long, long time. Way before Boris became PM and let’s be honest if it wasn’t for Covid it would have carried on unabated and it would never have got a mention. As I said, it’s just a witch hunt now. Let’s get back to some of the more important issues that I mention above.
     
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    Granted, usually nobody cares much how decadent and sleazy they are at No.10 as long as stuff gets done.

    But when lock down rules were imposed on everybody else, and the Police were going round fining people for illegal gatherings, the vast majority of people who obeyed the rules in good faith had the right to expect staff in Downing Street to do the same.
    But it is obvious now that No.10 considered itself above the rules.

    If I had known what they were getting up to 18 months ago, I would not have bothered obeying lockdown rules and staying away from my elderly mother's house for months on end. And if nothing is eventually done about Partygate, then I'll please myself next time there is a pandemic and we get more lockdown rules.
    Monkey see, monkey do.
     
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    Really ? So put others and yourself at risk just because some tosspot civil servants and MP’s have a drink and meetings when they shouldn’t.

    Personally I’m made of sterner stuff and can work out right and wrong for myself, as can millions of others. All this “if it’s ok for them then it’s ok for me” cuts no ice with me I’m afraid.
     
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