SAFC not taking the knee

Apologies if this has been discussed already, but does anyone know why we appear to be the only team NOT taking the knee? As far as I can recall, every other team we've played this season has knelt at the start yet we continue to stand.

 

Because in reality it does **** all to stop racial hatred. Someone that hates people they don’t know isn’t gonna stop because footballers take the knee.

 

Cos its feckin stupid

 

This!

 

And this!

 

I think it ran it's course as an effective act as soon as it was politicised and therefore polarised. Which of course was almost immediately.

 

Its a weird one for me as it should be personal choice. But not one individual does it so it seems like it isn't personal choice. Not that it achieves anything though, as stated above.
I hate the booing when teams do it, what is the point in that? The bloke behind me asked , "what are they booing for", I replied, "what are you applauding for"

 

Probably because they know that a significant section of our support would boo and cause the club national embarrassment. For the record I do wish they would come up with something else to recognise racism and inequality.

 

Any indefinite campaign loses impact over time.

This one is so vague that it's become irrelevant.

What exactly is it protesting against, discrimination ...

... isn't that a given, like threatening behaviour.

 

Agreed, it should neither be booed nor applauded. I only clap because I disagree with the booing.

 

Interesting to hear fans views but who made the decision to make a stand? Was it the players or some other body in the club advising? Will we ever find out?

 

I don't really care what they do except that it comes at exactly the wrong moment.

There's all the build up with the flags, music, singing, players coming out, etc ...

... then it's 'right everyone, let's all go quiet'.

 

I'm sure LJ said the squad discussed it at the start of the season and decided not to do it as a collective. However, I did notice Alves took the knee when he started at Blackpool away so it must be down to personal choice of the players

 

It is an inherently political act.

It is also a very easy thing for footballers to do and allow them to think they have " done their bit"

They are still doing this because they don't know how to stop. Will they stop because all discrimination has been eradicated? Clearly that will never be, so it can't stop.

Or do they not stop, and see a gesture become ever more meaningless with every tired looking slump to the ground made by these gullible players?

Just stop it. For those players who are really upset at the racism in society, do something that takes you out of your comfort zone, whatever that might be.

Like having people look at you wierd when you make an issue about it at work for instance. It's not all that pleasant, and I was threatened in the long ago for doing this! But that level of discomfort will not be experienced by players kneeling down, so find something positive to do that might be a bit more awkward at first.

For the record, my own view is that racial tolerance was on a great trajectory until it was politicised by the BLM extremists. I think this may have set things back years.

 

When the world was young and I was playing football as an adult in West London we had quite a mixed race team.

I reckon I would have paid a lot of attention to what my black team mates said about taking the knee. They would have influenced my decision.

Now it seems that organisations such as BLM encourage the 'taking of a knee'.

However it seems the Sunderland players have decided in their own right not to... fair enough.

 

agree, i realise it is a very personal view/opinion but i always thought racism was slowly being beaten, some kind of 'natural progression' has been continuing since at least the 70's and might even have been gathering pace...then the feckwits decided they wanted to use something, anything they could latch onto and rather than bringing people together over a common cause it caused a divide and possibly took race relations backwards for a while.

i used the term 'common cause' because that is exactly what it is, whether it be racial or sexual or any other type of discrimination i think we all see at least a part of it every day (the white van man, the bmw driver, female football commentators etc etc etc) and the simple act of 'being nice' can eliminate a hell of a lot.

 

I know that I react strongly when I see the kneeling live ... and I react negatively.
My main reasoning is why not All Lives Matter, which inherently would include black plus asian ..... and white. I find BLM is so biased and degrading that it can only create more racial tension.
Sadly every time I see a coloured face on the media now my first query is, is that a token diversity appointment, whereas my first reaction used to be the same for all new faces ... are they knowledgeable and interesting to listen to.
I will not watch live sport until that sport returns to being non political, although I know none of the woke minions will be bothered.

 

This is part really of the drive by the left, ( In America firstly, though eagerly taken up here ) to have everyone grouped together in one " identity" or another, made to feel a victim and then see the left, ( The Democrats) as the only people who can help them.

It is ridiculous. The community you belong to is , largely, the one in which you live, work and otherwise engage . It is not some nebulous connection, country wide, of people who have never met but have the same sexuality, race or whatever else.

Identity politics. An ugly and disreputable attempt to coral votes .

 

Could it be because its just a token gesture and another crusade started by the media and political groups.

 

Exactly, it's easier to kneel down for a bit than have to explain why you're not.