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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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  1. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    ?? Says 'in intensive care due to Covid'.
     
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    It's not the rate of actual protection, it's the you can't come in or travel because you don't have a valid covid passport
     
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    i was looking at reactions to this on facebook last night. the amount of scorn and ridicule in the reactions was brilliant. there's a birmingham live page, like our hull live ones, and at one stage over 500 people had reacted and every single one of them had reacted with the laughter emoji. reaction around the world, at least where i could understand the language or gist of it, was similar. australia was united in contempt. the headline trying to scaremonger and make out it's a new nasty thing when it's just two infections at once. jesus h corbett!
     
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    Anyone know what the hospitalisations rate where in the first wave April 2020?

    These seem very low to my unmedical eyes

    “In absolute terms, admission rates are highest among the over-85s at 37 admissions per 100,000 each day since Boxing Day, compared with 12 per 100,000 for 65 to 84-year-olds and four per 100,000 for 18 to 64-year-olds.”
     
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    There were about 700 hospitalisations a day through most of December, but it jumped to over 1,000 a day towards the end the month, rising to 1,915 admissions on the 27th. In March/April it was higher, over 2,000 a day for most of March/April and it peaked at around 3,500 a day.
     
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    Apologies - my mistake. I meant normalised (like that set of data). Into age groups per 100,000
     
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    England hospital admissions
    29 March 2020 in England hospital admissions 1722
    07 April 2020 2743 ( first peak)
    13 January 2021 3812
    29 December 2021 1590

    It has to be related to the point of testing. How many over 85's are testing positive when admitted into hospital for other issues? I don't believe that there are more covid admissions now, just more being admitted who test positive. Which I suppose could even be related to the number who had had boosters and have the anti bodies. I do think its about time we stopped the counting and considered that like Herpes most of the population are infected with or carry the virus.
     
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    there's a doctor called john campbell who does a daily video on youtube in which he reviews the latest figures. a few days ago he mentioned that the proportion of people in hospital with c19 who had been admitted for c19 rather some other reason had dropped to 20% and he expected it to fall further still. i'll watch out for another mention and post a link on here next time he brings it up.
     
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  11. Gone For A Walk

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    He's not a MD / medical doctor... Though has a real - PhD in Nursing Education
     
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    Not all the official advisors are medically qualified, nor should they be. But I do feel their areas of expertise miss many key factors, such as the consequential impacts of the measures, that can be very significant, and get missed.

    John Campbell's videos are a well balanced breath of fresh air.
     
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    Seems some of the modellers aren't actually very qualified either....!@!!
     
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    And the ones gathering the data that informs the models even less so.
     
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    If that's what he's saying he's got hold of the wrong end of the stick. It's about 70% COVID patients are in for COVID and the remainder with COVID. Those admitted with COVID could well be being admitted for a complication of COVID so it shouldn't be seen as incidental. Those cases still need the same PPE precautions and infection prevention control procedures.
     
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    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...es/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/hospitals
     
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    it may have been new admissions or ones that have omicron. most of the new admissions went in for something else and were tested on admission. he shows his sources. as I said, next time he mentions it, i'll put a link on here.


    i found the bit i saw. it was specifically about new admissions and runs for around 2 minutes from where i've set this link to start. i may have not stated it totally accurately.
     
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    I suspect most people are already doing this anyway.
     
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