Coronavirus: Please use this thread for all COVID19 talk!

I thought it was poor really. My QR code was only glanced at and it was not checked against my season ticket or ID to confirm that it elated to me. Inside the ground as you say mask wearing was totally ignored on the concourse and what did disturb me was that many of the regulars where I sit did not attend the game and their seats were sold to what seemed to me to be several Spurs fans. Given the current levels of the virus in London at the moment that was a concern as nobody was wearing a mask but me and the very lovely Mrs Godders. That was to be honest a pretty pointless gesture on my part. The whole experience was made worse by the fact that half the passengers on the bus home weren't wearing masks either. This lax regard for precautionary measures has to be laid at the door of No.10 to be honest as the government has lost all credibility and authority with the public.

 

That’s a lot.

 

Governments can be blamed for lots of things, but not selfishness of the general population. Seems to be regional as well....city folk aren’t as careful as us country mice...may be something to do with familiarity with close contact. On the Island, mask wearing is well observed in shops and buses and people tend to move out of the way of others...though perhaps not as far as before.

 

Expect it to spike even more this week as people would’ve been staying home more last week so as not to have to isolate and miss Christmas Day

 

I have perfected the "steely glare from behind the mask" which I inflict on unmasked fellow-shoppers. The other day I politely asked the bloke behind me in the queue for the till to give me more space. I feel sad that these measures are necessary, but they are.

 

The lack of enforcement is down to the government, Stiff fines for non-compliance and properly controlled restricted entry is entirely in the hands of Johnson his inept cronies. The examples throughout Cummings, the PPE corruption and parties do nothing to encourage the "personal responsibility" that Spaffer and Co feel no obligation to follow. Sit on a bus without a mask over here in the Netherlands and it doesn't move, complain and the police arrive with their contactless payment terminals.

 

So, it very much appears that the immune escape vs. low hospitalization equation owes to limited antibody protection for those immunized (mutations prevent antibodies from binding to the virus), but strong T-cell response. So, the immune response cannot prevent you from becoming infected, but can prevent you from getting very sick.

Good news for the vaccinated, but also speaks to why the overall numbers really tell two tales here. A lot of mild cases with the vaccinated (and those who got hit hard by the virus in the not-too-distant past) who have strong T-cell responses, and the unvaccinated will get run over by a freight train.

 

France 210k yesterday

 

Only ceiling on the announced number for the next little while is going to be test availability/reporting, basically. The IHME's projection model in the States estimates it at about 4x the announced number, and expects it to more than double by the time it peaks. If the average vaxxed person has COVID for ~5 days, and the average unvaxxed person for double that, applying the per-population numbers in the US to the UK would get you a peak of...about 5-8% of the population having COVID simultaneously in about a month.

 

I am really shocked in the No7 Household.

Kids 3 & 5 have tested positive for 4 days now (showed symptoms with hindsight for 5 days). Mrs No7, my daughter & me clear everyday. Yes they are in 'isolation' but only as good as we can get as they don't understand why we have force them to stay in a room ("Grandad, this is like a jail cell", "Trust me, a jail cell would be worse than this" ). They run downstairs unmasked, cough in the air etc, but we still test negative (so far). All I hope is the booster is working well.

I bet they start to test negative soon then I get it. Stress levels are high here as I am like the sanitiser police at the moment and it is hard not to upset them.

It also shows the kids are the ones now we have to careful about as they have no immunity and will catch it easily.

EDIT: Forgot to add I have had 'Covid like' symptoms for about a week now - sore throat, runny nose etc....maybe I am the carrier?

 

This is probably crossing all sorts of threads, and has probably already been done to death, but is there any 'official' information about the Swansea v Saints FA Cup fixture? Wales have decided to ban large gatherings, inside and out (OK, probably a gross over-simplification of the situation), so that would indicate that no fans, Swansea or Saints, will be in the ground during the match. I haven't organised any travel to go to Swansea, but can I safely assume that the match will be 'behind closed doors', or is it worth checking train times, prices, etc, just in case?

 

It's behind closed doors.

 

As we discussed the other day No7, this virus is weird.
It seems everyone we know who has had it ( including mrs SR) it only seems to effect 50% of each household.
So why doesn’t everyone get it whos in that close proximity all the time?

 

Thanks, Tom. I thought that this would be the case.

 

Yours is probably a computer virus.

 

It's a little-known fact that one of the clearest symptoms of being infected with any strain of Coronavirus is the desire to place bets on opposition teams, knowing that this will aid Saints' chances of success. It is, surprisingly, also the best way of warding off the virus, and of treating any other symptoms. I'm not for a moment suggesting that TIOON7 needs to put money on Newcastle, but if it keeps someone out of hospital, then it's a price worth paying.

 

It's definitely possible that the people who seemed like they didn't get it were asymptomatic/low-symptomatic carriers, and stopped having enough viral load to register on a test by the time that others displayed symptoms. That happened to someone I know back in early/mid 2020, when we were still dealing with Original Recipe COVID: two members of the household got COVID, the third was negative when tested (multiple times). But an antibody test later showed that they'd almost certainly had COVID.

 

They probably do but it's so mild for the vast majority that they're antisymptomatic / non-infectious. Particularly if they were first to get it as Schad alludes to.

I also know a family of 5 recently - all unjabbed - but only two of them ended up testing positive for it. Confirmed Omicron too.

Pretty sure basically everyone is going to get it over the coming months. The question is at what point is the isolation not a thing. Depends where we are in Spring I suppose.