Grand Prix thread ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX 2021

The question will be about lapped cars, if all of them are meant to overtake the safety car, then the race would have ended under the safety car as there wouldn’t be any laps left to complete by the time this had been completed, so who knows

 

God knows....

They can't change it now. It's done. But it is farcical.

I am always against too many penalties, but this season too much has been let slide or made up on the spot for the sake of the show. Safety and the rule book has to come first going forward.

 

The safety car could not have reasonably come in before the end of the race as it would have to let all lapped cars past them and complete an additional lap...

Even only letting 5 lapped cars past it should have completed an additional lap.

They'll end the race as it was behind safety car imo.

 

Mercedes clearly have a case, but I don't see how it can help them. There's no provision to arbitrarily take the result from lap 47 either as far as I know.

For the best, if it results in a new race director though.

 

As far as I'm concerned Max is now that Champion, what is done is done.
I do want to see repercussions though for manufacturing the end result though. Brushing it under the carpet will hurt the sport too much.

I'm glad Mercedes have lodged a complaint, it won't achieve much for them but hopefully it will clear out the dead weight within the FIA.

 

As I have said before rules are rules. Each team has a set and, hopefully, tries to use them to their best ability. Problems start when the rules are not applied as per the book.
I expect red bull to now protest Lewis gaining an advantage by cutting the corner.

I very much doubt FIA will overturn the decision and it wouldn't look good on Merc taking fia to court.

 

Honestly, he should fall on his sword for this season as a whole. Never mind that debacle.

 

why would you need to take the result from lap 47? The question is over only the lapped cars between Lewis and Max being allowed to overtake and the way they ended the safety car. Surely the lapped cars that over took the safety car have to be back round behind the pack before the race can restart?

 

Utter BS that. Did RB replace the Race Director with Howard Webb? Just no reason, based on precedent and the rules, that it shouldn't have been red-flagged or terminated. They actually said to Masi "We just need one lap" - and he delivered. Bent

 

Apparently Max summoned to the stewards for over taking under the safety car. I'm guessing it was when he was side by side with Lewis and maybe nudged forward.

Are the FIA going to use that as a get out clause for the **** storm they made? I hope not. As much as I don't want Max to be the winner based on what happened that would just make it more of a joke.

Though this is a friend telling me this, looking for a more reliable source.

 

Easy solution is to make them both champion

Make it up and then the 8 time champion can have car 44 and the first time champion can have car no 1.

Lol

F1 has always made rules up as its gone along, why stop now

 

That would probably worse than where we are at now. Can't fix this mess...it's done.

 

Hamilton was riding the brakes trying to get him to. Verstappen was far far to eager there

 

Yeah giving Max a penalty will only make this worse. The FIA are going to have to admit this is on them rather than trying to dig their way out of this.

 

True but if he did over take it was millimetres and shouldn't be stripped of the title for that. If the FIA do, imo they know they did wrong with the safety car and are again trying to fix it but will just make it so much worse.

 

In the end he had zero need to be alongside where he was so its be his own fault lol.

Remember the same stewards let hamilton off completely ignoring turn 2 after going off at turn 1 to ton maximise the gap and then not even hand half it back.

They could do anything as they are totally different people with a different agenda too.

 

When have FIA ever admitted to getting something wrong?
C4 chat is interesting especially as it's 2 former red bull drivers!

 

Irrelevant... Like in football.

Offside is offside.. If the tolerance isn't in the rules then theirs no leeway.

 

But we’ve constantly been told that the rules must be followed, Merc and Lewis got a penalty for a wing gap that no human eye could ever see. That’s the mess that this season has become, the FIA constantly trying to justify why rules aren’t being applied consistently.

 

I guess, just trying to give benefit of the doubt on that call since it's so tight. For me the clear call is the all or none on lapped cars and the SC should come in a lap later. That's the mess up for me.