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Law 12

PLAYING IN A DANGEROUS MANNER

Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.

A scissors or bicycle kick is permissible provided that it is not dangerous to an opponent.

 

Is the right answer. Both are accidental.

HOWEVER "refereeing" in this country is ****ing abysmal and bias at the moment against Newcastle is clear. There is nothing anybody can or will do about these two issues.

The shove on Wilson was more of a pen. The foul on Schar by Odegaard was a clear and obvious error.

 

I'm not agreeing with the rules mate.. The rules are a mess.

For example Wilson in on goal gets shoulder barged to the floor - no pen

Trossard slight touch fron Clark by accident with a wall of players to beat goes down - pen

Both those dangerous play incidents are just things that happen on a football pitch and neither defender was doing anything wrong intentionally.

Do away with rules and apply common sense please..

 

You can't accidentally boot somebody in the face and get away with it man. Well, unless it's against us evidentally

 

But by the law both are penalties as both are dangerous - intentional or not, there is no way you can tell me anyone is prepared to accept being kicked in the face is not dangerous regardless of the intent.

 

The attacking player puts his face there

 

The difference for me was that the ball was touched on Longstaff. The issue then is where does his foot end up.

In Townsends situation he doesn’t get the ball and he kicks the player in the face.

How anyone can deem that not a foul is beyond me. He didn’t kick the ball. He kicked the player. Thus it’s a foul. And thus it’s a pen.

 

How can Townsends not be a penalty. I need this explained to me.

Townsend missed the ball and kicked the player. Foul. In the box. Penalty.

It doesn’t actually matter in this instance where he kicked him. The simple fact is he kicked the player and not the ball?

 

Yeah the rules are as you say mate , but my view is neither should be a pen and that the rules nonsense.

It's just part of the game.. Longstaff was brave and if I'm the defender I can't just say go on then head it in.

It's just one of them and imo that's where some common sense should be applied ie no pen.

 

Was the penalty against man United yesterday this not a penalty. As wan Bisaka missed the ball accidentally but kicked silvan leg!

He didn’t mean to kick him.

 

I get your reasoning for longstaffs but not for Townsends.

 

I think it should be more based on what the implications are

A penalty is a match winning decision.. Its basically giving a goal away, so I think the offence should based on whether what the defender did or prevented was bad enough to give the other team a goal.

All these ****ing rules man football is never going to be black and white and the rules are trying too hard to do that.

 

No you head it clear, with the ball being head height

 

But a foul is a foul and if it’s in the box it’s a penalty.

If not then players would be running around kicking ten bags of **** out of each other.

The aim of the game is to kick the ball. So if it’s not kicked and you kick the player it is a foul.

So for me I understand your reasoning for longstaffs. I personally say it was a penalty but I can see the argument.

Townsends nope. Blatent accidental foul but still a foul. In the box. So penalty.

 

High feet is classed as dangerous play isn’t it. At least the rule is there to protect players safety.

I remember Batty getting his head nearly kicked off once. He just got up and carried on with blood gushing from his head.

I wish football was like that again.

 

Bottom one is 100% a penalty as he’s kicked the guy in the face. There can be not one single argument about that.

The top 1, I’ve not seen the clip of but I believe high foot is an indirect free kick. So if no contact is made it becomes a high foot and is therefor not a penalty, however if he’s made contact with the player it becomes dangerous play and should be a pen. I don’t know and can’t see in that still if he makes contact with the attacker?

similar to these incident are when goal keepers come for a cross and end up punching players in the face. Think there were 2 or 3 cases last season and this where it’s happened and it’s not been given as a penalty somehow which I just don’t get.

 

Nah there was nothing on the ball he couldn't have cleared it mate.

 

In longstaffs he got the ball a fraction before connecting in longstaffs face. It’s not as clear cut as the bottom one and I said at the time I felt it should have been a pen for dangerous play.

But the defender did get the ball first so arguably it’s the strikers fault for going in with his face. I’m 75:25 in this in favour of a pen.

Townsends was 100% a pen.

 

It bugs me that any of these incidents if they had happened outside the box would have been a free kick, why inside the box changes the outcome I don’t know

 

It shouldn’t make any difference so I agree with you. A foul is a foul.

Some teams just get penalties and if you where to flip the decision the other way a lot wouldn’t be given.

For me if VAR has to look at it over and over and over again then it’s not clear cut and this not a penalty.