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That long throw from Kalas

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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Finally a Kalas long throw bought the winning goal

     
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    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    We scored from the long throw at Reading away
     
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  3. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    The long throw is a valid tactic and a useful weapon to have in your arsenal.
    I don’t know why some people hate it so much.
     
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  4. RedorDead

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    Overused, we’ve stepped back a little from doing it all the time. Use it as an element of surprise not all the time. Same player same rub the ball down same run up but alternate short or long and they don’t know which way to go.
     
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    Now we have to resort to Gas football. City spent three minutes of the game drying the ball. City are **** to watch. Really ****.
     
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  6. Red Robin

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    I was there forgot that one <laugh>
     
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  7. AshtonRed

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    I think we identified it was a weakness of theirs against Stoke. In fairness we haven’t used it too much recently, I don’t mind it used occasionally, just not all the time.
     
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    We need to get points at the moment regardless of looking good. I take your point though, like watching paint dry at times.
     
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  9. bcfcredandwhite

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    Sorry but I don't get it.
    If you have a player who can launch the ball into the box from a throw-in then why not use it? It's like having a free kick or a corner. It would be madness not to use it - it would be like using a corner or a free kick at the edge of the box to pass back to the defence!!!
    I know even corner kicks are played short sometimes, but not very often - and usually when winding the clock down at the end of a game.
    The long throw (IMHO) is a useful tactic that changes the advantage of a throw-in into that of a free kick.
     
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    For the same reason you don’t want to just lob the ball forward to a big target man, the opposition know what you’re going to do, it’s ok, but you need different options.
     
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    How often is it close to the player it’s aimed for?
     
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    probably the most difficult aspect, guess it is get it in box and anything can happen .. personally would aim for middle edge of 6yd box!

    took GS to practice from stand at KEYNSHAM propelled a ball over 15 m from static overhead "throw in"
     
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    I honestly don't know - I'm assuming from your comment that it's not very often.
    Even so, it places the ball into the opposition's box - always a danger, where your own players have a 50/50 chance of getting to it.
    I know that many of you don't like the tactic - and I'm not attempting to convert you into liking it - I just think that if you have a player with arms strong enough to make the ball REACH the box from a throw then it's worth using.
    I accept that many people don't agree.
     
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    I don't get that logic, it's like saying only do a long corner, or a free-kick from the wing every now and again to surprise them. The end result is the same for all 3 delivery methods, it's a ball into the area to contest?
     
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    I mean we couldn't even get the ball in the opposition half most of the time so it was nice to see a goal come from the long throw, didn't even beat the first man half the time and every throw in he'd try the same thing, it got very predictable real quick, I like the idea though.
     
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    when you put in so much energy to propel a ball [ or any other item ] using body strength and technique accuracy is never guaranteed.
    take discus/ shot putt and Javelin .. how many land straight ahead of the thrower [ they throw into an widening cone ] .. a lot more than needed for TK 's efforts! aiming for an area in front of goal. To get the distance both arms have to work together, from behind head, assisted propulsion by body curve, and last second flick of wrist all must remain straight in direction of intended.
    You often see a rigidly adhered body motion with slacking of arm or wrist to get slightly off direction/ or body turns to it .. you've all done it so know when you do a certain movement the ball goes where you in tend... not saying I could do a throw into middle of box at my age...!! but next time at GS practice might have a go at KEYNSHAM to see just how far!! ....... from a standing throw!
     
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  17. RedorDead

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    They have slightly more accuracy when taking free kicks and corners and do mish mash them. Far post, front post, edge of the box etc. the throw is quite a loop throw. That ex Derby long throw specialist was very low and difficult to defend against. I do like the long throw as it’s useful but to keep doing the same thing is predictable.
    **** me I’m sounding like JGF argggghhhhhh
     
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  18. Cliftonville

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    There can be massive differences in efficency. Statistical norms are that short corners are more efficient than balls into the box.

    Tens and tens of millions pounds spent. investment on coaching structure, an academy ... Its disappointing to see Bristol City's football being so reliant on a long throw. Its 2021 we had all the big words about becoming a modern club. The identity on the pitch is the team can barely string any pattern of passing together. Its pathetic.
     
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