New owner confirmed…

The Allams have run the club financially well over the past few years, which they have benefitted from.

Sadly they are terrible at PR, which football relies on to keep customers interested.

They also failed to make the most of the healthy finances the Premier League offered to advance the club.

Yes we’ve been in bad positions previously, but I personally don’t think any owner has fallen from such potential to such malaise quite as much as they have.

 

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Couldn’t agree more about pr.
but your last bit? Err Sunderland Portsmouth Wigan Blackburn….

 

Apologies, I should have said our owners.

 

They don't even deserve all this credit for "running the financial side of it well".

Anyone can cut all the costs to virtually nothing and then watch as everything declines. Problem is it leaves you on a decline that's impossible to arrest without major investment. Currently we've got **** crowds, no real income and no assets to do anything with.

We're lucky we're getting a takeover. Without it we'd be heading for the lower leagues for good with the club in the shape it is now. Even with it, it could still be too late to avoid another relegation this year.

It's mental how far people are prepared to lower the bar to give them credit.

 

A decline that was so impossible to arrest that we won League One last season..

 

Yep, we won League 1 but then without the takeover we look like going down again in worse shape than last time. With the current strategy we'd become a Championship/League 1 yo-yo club. Then we cut costs further because we can't keep paying high earners like Cartwright £200 per week at this level even if he is our number 1 now. Then we're firmly established mid-table league one, then we make a bad managerial appointment after failing to back whoever the League 1 Adkins is and we drop to League 2. Got to cut costs now, can't afford to pay League 1 wages at this level and so on...

Just cutting costs forever is obviously not a real strategy and will only lead to continued decline without major investment to turn it around, which is why we so desperately need it now.

 

Do we look like going down? We have a good squad, we've been unlucky with injuries, but our defence has been virtually top 6 quality (think we've conceded less goals than QPR). xG has us doing far better than we've actually done, and the last three games has started to bear that out. Worse shape than last time? Our squad this time around is in far, far better shape than last time with a bunch of overpaid mercenaries.

 

To be fair, we’re matching the decline out of the Premier League under Bruce, quick promotion back, immediate relegation and then slowly heading to the next level down.

The real test would have been if we were to go down again, would we make it back to the Championship a second time?

 

It feels like there's a fair few on here writing this season off despite having just won 3 games in a row..

It's only November ffs!

 

I agree, however until the last 3 games I had seen nothing to suggest we’d stay up.

Are the last 3 games a true turning of the corner or a good run of form against 2 weak sides and a side with 10 men?

We’ll find out I guess.

 

I would say that our xG as well as our defensive solidity were pretty decent signs that when we had key personnel such as Honeyman back we would perform a lot better, which is what ended up happening. Think we had over 3 xG against Peterborough alone (partly helped by a penalty, granted). Our displays really weren't as bad as some make out.

 

I disagree, sitting in the stadium it felt like we were trying to do the same thing over and over again and it not working.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that now 3 of our wins have come after a change in the system. (Barnsley aside).

 

It wasn't just hyperbole though was it. It was a gift to the people of Hull. You don't take back a gift and you certainly don't take massive interest payments on it. Take any emotion or anything else out of it you're still left with the fact that it was a bare faced lie.
Some people might be fine with it, some people might find it distasteful, some people may think it's dispicable. That's all opinion, but he lied about it being a gift and that's a cold hard fact.

 

Right now after three wins, no we look like finishing top half. But three games ago everyone was convinced we'd finish bottom. Who knows where we'll end up or where we would end up if there wasn't a takeover, but the fact is if you keep cutting costs and try to work on one of the smallest budgets in the league then that's where you'll end up 9 times out of 10.

Like the other guy said, this is the exact trajectory we had at the start of our gradual decline.

The point is, just cutting costs to an extreme is not some sort of business genius. Anyone could do that and just say no to anyone asking to spend money. Crediting them with it is ridiculously generous and, as massive twats, they don't deserve such generosity.

 

I’ll open the can of worms. But if it weren’t for Steve Bruce the club would be right up the crapper financially.

 

So two of the three wins.

Yes I agree that the change of system has helped, as I acknowledged above, but again, change of system demonstrates no underlying issue with the players themselves.

 

Yes he lied, if you want to call it that (rather than an embellishment/hyperbole). If you think a lie is the worst thing he did then I don't know what to tell you, but I can think of several worse things he's done than tell a lie about his motivation for buying the club.

 

I included Middlesbrough.

I agree, I’m not sure it’s necessarily the players at fault but investment in the right manager and a possible diktat (unproven) to play one system also falls at the Allams door.

 

Last years League one, was the worst standard Ive seen in a long time.
I just want to get back to loving my club again, anything else is a bonus...