Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

But we don't have to hide, just be sensible and mindful of what's going on.

 

Whatever it is it tends to be indecipherable.

 

Unfortunately, you, and many others may be that. But too many aren't and feel that they can just carry on doing what they want when they want.

 

Why do we have to trust them? I’m interested. politicians lie to us constantly.

 

That's true but I won't be hiding because of them.

 

I was vaccinated by a nurse in an NHS building. Not a politician in sight.
Do you think NHS workers lie to us?

 

Straw man
Try harder

 

Saying politicians lie to us when talking about medications is ridiculous. Worrying about doctors and scientists lying is legitimate, what some buffoon of a politician thinks, unless they have qualifications in these areas is irrelevant.

 

You’re determined to go off at a tangent so carry on
But how would a nurse at a surgery in brid know anything about the testing processor of said vaccines or clinical trials.

 

Same thing with my missus and her Sister. I can't influence them, it's their choice. I talked about this to the experienced nurse who gave me both of my jabs and she advised me to get them to discuss it with their GP, because he may be able to convince them more than I could.

Meanwhile, I have to live with the bastards

 

What about Pfizer lieing about the vaccine data used in thier trail...wouldn't that be a legitimate worry ?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

 

She was actually from Hull. And a City fan, we had a quick chat about the takeover, so I would assume she would be ITK.

 

Did you read my post?

 

I’n vehemently opposed to compulsory vaccinations. It’s a personal choice,

I would ask though, if you’re refusing the vaccine because you don’t trust the science to consider how many scientists worldwide would be involved in the conspiracy,

If, after consideration you still don’t trust the science then please also refuse cancer treatments, diabetes treatments, treatments that aid kidney disease, lung disease, liver disease, headaches, migraines, hay fever along with many other ailments as it’s the same scientists working on the drug development of all these too,

 

Don’t you have cancer treatment Thats tried n tested and approved tho mate. This hasn’t been.
Often they try a cancer treatment that’s risky or not fully approved
And if you’re desperate and dying of cancer then you take that chance
That’s not the case here.

 

For years we have been told that approval for a new drug or treatment takes years and years, it comes as no surprise when some are sceptical of a vaccine developed and approved within months.

 

That wasn’t the point Chazz. The point was about trust. If you don’t trust the Scientists on Covid then why would you trust their other work?

Tagrisso a relatively new treatment for Lung Cancer brought to you by many of the same Scientists that brought you the covid vacc, It was also fast tracked.

Do you not think that somebody off the shop floor would speak up if there was something amiss?

 

In normal circumstances it does take tears to develop a new drug. Hence why they’re so expensive.

This is a vaccine, Not a new drug or new treatment. It was developed in special & extraordinary circumstance.In one of the vaccines using an already working vaccine was a starting point.

Validation work was going on before the actually body of work was finished, Pharma Companies were communicating & sharing info in a way that I’ve never experienced, it was quite surreal.

To question the integrity, as many have, of the “shop floor” scientists is quite baffling, ignorant & way wide of the mark. They are some of the most principled people in working environment that willingly adhere to strict & monitored standards,

Many off here should be thankful the Scientists do the job they do.

 

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