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Daily Racing Thread Saturday 20th. November 2021

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Nov 19, 2021.

  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Saturday's Meetings

    Lingfield
    A/W 8 Races 11:35-3:30p.m.
    Gowran Park
    N/H 7 Races 12:00-3:23p.m.
    Haydock Park
    N/H 7 Races 12:10-3:35p.m.
    Huntingdon
    N/H 7 Races 12:15-3:43p.m.
    Ascot
    N/H 7 Races 12:20-3:50p.m.
    Wolverhampton(E)
    A/W 8 Races 4:30-8:00p.m.

    Racecards
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    Sporting Life
    Racing Post

    Good Luck<ok>
     
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  2. redcgull

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    Off to Haydock today, Betfair Day and Bristol De Mai going for a 4th hopefully...?!?

    One i have from the early decs is Stoney Mountain @ 10/1 in the 2:25...<ok>
     
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  3. Pilgrim

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    Rightplacerightime 11/2 for me. Comes from Ireland and will carry very little weight.


     
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  4. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    It looks a very good renewal of the Betfair Chase this year and connections of A Plus Tard are to be applauded for letting him take his chance here. Much like Frodon going to Down Royal the other week, his presence here adds massively to the race. Having said that, I think he is way too short in the betting and needs taking on:

    1. A Plus Tard - clearly a very talented gelding on his day and is top rated in the field on 172. Having said that, his career record of 5 wins from 12 races does suggest a certain vulnerability to me and I think his price is plenty short enough.

    2. Bristol de Mai - triple winner who regularly saves his best for Haydock, albeit usually on much easier going. I think Daryl Jacob will make plenty of use of him, ensuring a good pace, but I think he might be vulnerable to a closer on this better ground.

    3. Chatham Street Lad - successfully crossed the Irish Sea to win the Caspian Caviar Gold Cup last season and finished 4th in the Marsh Novices Chase at the festival. That shouldn't be anywhere good enough to be involved here.

    4. Clondaw Castle - another solid handicapper who is out of his depth here.

    5. Imperial Aura - looked set for the top table after winning a grade 2 chase so impressively at Ascot a year ago but the wheels came off somewhat thereafter with a 2nd fence unseat at Kempton and pulled up in the Ryanair. On a recovery mission but this longer trip could bring out the best in him and he goes well fresh, so not ruled out.

    6. Next Destination - made the switch from Willie Mullins to Paul Nicholls and enjoyed a good first season at Ditcheat, culminating in a fine 2nd in the National Hunt Chase. He clearly has the requisite stamina but may lack the experience for this and could well be taken off his feet if there is a strong early pace.

    7. Royale Pagaille - Won the Peter Marsh in breathtaking style last season but that was on much softer ground. Subsequently found things happening too quickly in the Cheltenham Gold Cup and the same thing could happen here.

    8. Waiting Patiently - needs the change of trainer to have worked the oracle and bring him back to his best to be competitive here. However, he is a strong traveller and a good pace should suit him. If he can get close to the form of his King George 2nd he could be in with a squeak here.

    Summary: This ought to be a truly run affair and the prevailing ground conditions would appear to favour a strong traveller with a turn of foot. I would love to see Waiting Patiently run a good race but even more so I would like to see Imperial Aura put his best foot forward and realise the potential he showed in his novice season. If he can get in to a nice jumping rhythm then he could spring a minor surprise.
     
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  5. redcgull

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    Nicely written that Oddy... <ok>

    I would like BDM to win but with those legs gaining years on them it might be the first time that the pack might have stronger cases... I also like Imperial Aura & Next Destination but i think my heart will stay with the grey in the end...:emoticon-0115-inlov :emoticon-0109-kiss:
     
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    Plenty of short priced faves early doors tomorrow…
     
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    Somebody say FAVS <badger><badger><badger>
     
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  8. Pilgrim

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    Haydock
    12,40 Amateur 11/2
    14,25 Rightplacerighttime 11/2

    Ascot
    15,15 Diego Du Charmil 13/2 e/w WH three places, bet365 two places

    Gowran Park
    15,23 Influential Lady 6/1 bet365, others 11/2 and 5/1

    Good luck all.
     
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  9. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Bob Olinger shows the motor is still nicely tuned on chase debut, hacking round and easily pulling clear of Bacardys. A highly satisfactory chase debut in the race won by Energumene last year.
     
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  10. Steveo

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    some great races today - tempting to go for many of the favourites, but there are some good other options out there.

    Haydock 1.50 Bravemansgame I hope will win but Itchy Feet a big danger
    Haydock 3.00 A Plus Tard looks the class horse. Only concern will be what he is like first time out, and of course opposing him is Bristol de Mai - the best horse around when going fresh
    Haydock 3.35 I will take on the favourite here with the improving Empire Steel

    Ascot 2..40 Buzz looks to be a bit short in the betting so will take him on with Song for Someone who I was very impressed with last season
    Ascot 3.15 Before Midnight looks to have a touch of class and can win this competitive race
     
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  11. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    I agree on Song for Someone Steve - way overpriced and goes really well fresh <ok>
     
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    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Tell you what, that Bryony Frost is some horsewoman. The ride she just gave Jeremy Pass was absolutely beautiful. She presented the horse spot on at every fence - when she saw a stride she asked him up, when she didn't she let him pop. Just an absolutely beautiful ride to watch. That's 2 from 2 for her at Ascot and the ride on the first was equally good but very different, with a power-packed finish.
     
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    Very easy for BRAVEMANSGAME there, Skybet we’re going Evs as part of there club promo.
     
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    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Bravemansgame just has so much scope. I wonder where next for him? Surely no coincidence that Nicholls has pitched him straight into open company for his first 2 chases.
     
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    Great to see Lostintranslation back <ok>
     
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    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Take a bow Isabel Williams - what a fantastic ride on Dans Le Vent <applause>
     
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    Unlucky mate - filthy from Buzz <laugh> looked like he'd just joined in approaching the last. Very smooth.
     
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  18. SwanHills

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    Just a modest interest today for Saturday:

    15:50 Ascot - reverse forecast:

    Dream In The Park/Our Jester

    Good luck today guys! :emoticon-0167-beer:
     
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    Not much you can say about that - imperious A Plus Tard
     
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  20. Steveo

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    Could well be the Gold Cup winner this season
     
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