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Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. DMD

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    150 staff taken on at HoH Food Hall today...

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    Don't think much of the uniforms.
     
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    Not overly keen on the poncey modern decor either.
     
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    I was in York for a mate's stag do this weekend. It reminded me why I don't often go - don't get me wrong, it's a marvellous city, but it's full of Hyacinth Buckets. Most aren't there to enjoy themselves, most are there for status - they spend all day in a queue outside Betty's just to tell people they went to Betty's in York.

    We went for a meal at a place which is apparently well thought of, which I just thought was average with a heavy price tag (for what it was) and the place was rammed. I went to Humber Fish Co on Thursday night in Hull and the meal was 10x the quality. Half the tables were full.

    We went to Brewdog in York for one of the 4 beer flights - 9:45pm we got the beers. "Sup up lads, we're gonna close at 10" - on a Saturday night! Tried a few other places, all either closed or had called last orders. Ended up in a bar that randomly switched the DJ off and turned on the lights at 11pm. Fed up, we ended up just going back to the hotel bar and drinking there as we were told it was open til 3am. When this is the experience and yet everywhere is rammed, it is baffling.

    I do like the vision for Hull with regards to the old town and Whitefriargate improvements along with a cruise terminal, but the council should be looking closer to home to help attract more custom. Instead of just hoping to attract Hyacinth Buckets away from York for a day, some focus should go on attracting coin in from the East Riding and Northern Lincolnshire. HoH looks like it could offer something different and bring others into the city. Living on the South Bank these days, I've told many North Lincs folk about places in Hull, as they don't ever consider it an option. All who I have convinced to give it a go have loved it and said they don't know why they've never been, they've just always assumed it was bad from things they'd heard, rather than experienced themselves.

    Those moaning about the quality of shops haven't moved with the times. It's a pastime activity - people don't really go out shopping much anymore. Most buy online now and a lot of the new generation buy second hand to do their bit for the environment - which is why vintage clothing is big again, through the rise of platforms like Depop. The future of city centres is through being a one-stop shop for leisure activities along with great food and drink options, with a bit of shopping on the side. It's not the 90s any more.

    The problem with trying to compete for custom with other tourist heavy places like York is you need to provide for those types of people - Hull's old town is stunning like many areas of York, with similar characteristics, but the council should stop trying to be like York and instead embrace what makes Hull unique. For me Hull's vibe is more Rotterdam, Hamburg, Berlin... Rough round the edges, but in a cool way. Edgy and should embrace it's difference.
    That always seems to be a problem in the UK - people's aims for success of a city seem to be based on it being like every other place in the UK.
     
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    Good positive post Daz. Leeds and York are very successful cities and there is no point in competing with them because as you say we are different, port cities are. I think we are taking a different direction with the Yorkshire's Maritime City Project and things are starting to link back up after the devastation on the high street, we are repurpasing in a very good way with HOH, Paragon Arcade, Humber Street, Bonus Arena etc. I'm very positive about the city centre after Castle Street and the Maritime Project complete.
     
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    I would love Hull to be like those European cities you mention, bars that different age groups can go in until the early hours, ones families can go in, places serving meal after 9pm, good late alll night transport. But it isn't and won't be.
    Of course the same could be said about most British cities in comparison to the places you mention.
     
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    Is there something wrong with the hyacinths money? Quite disparaging tbh that.
    And people don’t go out shopping ffs
    That is ridiculous
    A lot like me
    Won’t buy clothes off the internet as the sizes are so ****. tell all them people in Zara they don’t buy clothes now??
    yes the Zara we lost but leeds n York have.
     
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    I liked prinny quay when it was new, especially top deck which should never have been turned in to the pictures place. It nicely linked the newer part of town to the old town and drew people into that area, sure more could have been made of the water like having some boats in it but that was scuttled by castle street closing off the access.

    Agree 100% about St Sephens it's like a cold wind tunnel and shafted the whole town center, I think the deal was done so that the bus station could be re done in the project. With the parking at the back of Tesco and the bus station I think many people don't even bother to cross ferensway these days.
     
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    Ye prinny quay was ok in itself but it ruined the chance of the dock there and that’s what we should have had.
    There’s hardly any shops across ferens way now
    Only one I go in is the Ben Sherman shop in prinny quay as I can try a shirt on see if it fits!
    I hate ordering clothes on line and sending them back
     
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    I get all my Gucci, Prada, Armani & Louis Vuitton delivered and what doesn’t fit my trim body which is rare I just have my butler to send it back for me.
     
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    I have my head butler deal with these things.
     
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    Just sat in Ponto Lounge for a pit stop, another new cafe link between old and new town, nice open art deco theme with a few fit Polish birds in, loads of shoppers in town on a Tuesday morning, almost vibrant!
     
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    1 it seems like a lot of money to spend on a park area.
    2 it may be an age thing but it seems like it's not the first time Queens garden has had a makeover.
     
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    i think it’s cheap, 5m will be on excavating the old docks & making good the old dock walls.
    Final bill will be £20-25 mill
     
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    They just look like stewards.
     
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    MKM day trip?
     
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    It's a real shame Hull college is where it is now they're doing up that bit of High street behind it. A refurbed Queens gardens leading up to a historical area/attraction would have been a really good look for the city centre.
     
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    Neither York or Leeds were hammered like Hull during the war, you only have to look a photos, posted often enough on old Hull websites, to see that Hull was a more than a match for both of them. But history, as I have said on many a site, was against Hull as a city. The Shambles in York, is just that a shambles, Hull had dozens of similar places, in the late 50's/early 60's Leeds was a ****hole, and that is from personal experience. Then the motorways arrives and everything change, Hull was out in the cold, the local council didn't help at times but investment was not forthcoming. Until that is Harold Wilson offered bribe through his Transport Secretary Barbara Castle. We got our Humber Bridge after 150 years of asking, but of course other concerns were in they way. Humberside was a failure, a good idea but a failure, old antagonism meant that old foes could battle once again, and in any all we got, after the promised land was a nappy factory on the South Bank.
     
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