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Off Topic Another 100 Years War against the Perfidious French

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Sunderpitt, May 6, 2021.

  1. Daz

    Daz Well-Known Member

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    Yeah unfortunately we are governed by a blond chimp so I’ll not hold my breath.
     
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  2. Makemstine Roger

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    prove it i already have everyone can see its an Express article and i didn't write it , you take it up with them if it upsets you so much , its you that is untruthful, are you trying to goad me so your mate can thread ban me again when you go crying to him
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

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    It's not an article, it's a click-bait headline

    There are no empty shelves, just the possibility in the future.

    If you read the article it doesn't mention any empty shelves currently.

    I didn't say you wrote it, I said it was the Express.

    I'm not upset, not trying to goad you and couldn't care less if you're banned or not.

    Clear?
     
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  5. brb

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    I generally don't take too much notice of any of the rags, not even the local ones. Click bait is a fair phrase mate, most papers advertise, so they do need the clicks, because that's their revenue, unless you are paying a monthly subscription.

    Hence you will get over-exaggerated headlines, just so you click to the story, which normally bears no resemblance to the title.

    SKY News put up an article on twitter a few weeks back, suggesting empty shelves in the UK, and had a picture of empty shelves in a store. Personally I wish these articles were made to date stamp that sort of material, because anyone who did their checks, would have soon realised it was a one off Tesco somewhere in London (can't remember location) and the picture was taken two WEEKS ago!

    I was saying not long ago that I went back something like three months on my online account and in that time, I think I'd only had two items missing. Now there is several factors for that, in that online operates differently to instore. Which is what caused a lot of the problems if you know anything about distribution.

    During covid we all moved from store to online during the lockdown, well in short the systems and distribution just can't cope with that sort of change. Then when things return to normal you get hit with a double whammy of complete change in distribution again. What don't get mentioned is a lot of the HGV drivers were not EU, they were non EU truckers, hence why they got paid peanuts.

    Well that peanuts in the industry throughout the UK/EU has seriously come back to bite us all because the whole infrastructure is now out of kilter.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

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    This headline was particularly ridiculous and doesn't reappear anywhere in the article, as far as I can see.

    Yet it's in apostrophes implying it's a quote despite no one actually saying it.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...hortage-lorry-drivers-empty-shelves-Brexit-uk
     
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    Anyway anyone that is interested in how online picking is done, might get a surprise if they think it's done by humans, the following clip demonstrates how everything is fine tuned to our every needs, but not by human hands, hence why it don't have the capacity to cope with change, such as the demand created in lockdown...

     
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    This is really interesting and highlights another problem.

    Any so called panic buying, through online shopping, soaks up supplies so goods never reach the shelves.

    So those with internet, credit cards and, accessible address, etc, can have goods delivered while, typically, some elderly, poor and disadvantaged will suffer.

    As you've said there'll be unpredictable swings in demand that can't be met and that will greatly increase the urge to 'panic buy' in my opinion.

    If I believe my favourite porridge will be in short supply I'll stock up.

    Some see that as panic buying, I just think it's a reasonable and logical act ...

    ... it's only when thousands of other porridge lovers do the same that it's seen as panic and selfish.
     
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    Looks like I'll be getting into France via landing craft when I go to Eurodisney next year then.

    At least there'll be no resistance crossing the channel.
     
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  11. brb

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    You are correct, if consumer habits suddenly shift, 'just in time' can take a hit it might not cope with initially, we saw this when the government put the country into lockdown Then again when they lift lockdown.

    That's why the supermarkets had to create a new/different route for the vulnerable, during covid, where it allowed them to phone a number and they could order basic essentials. I know some were then picked in store.

    The whole of your manpower, transport from HGV to vans, storage space has to try and adapt.

    Erith (London) distribution a few months back took a hit when two robots collided and caused a fire, in short the deliveries never happened and if you are processing 65k orders a week that's a big hit (figure taken from andover video earlier in thread).

    https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/19582811.erith-warehouse-fire-cost-ocado-estimated-35-million/

    Then you get the chain knock-on effect, where those customers then try to get what they want instore, I'm sure you can see the problems with that. You might think, that's ok I'll go to another store, well I know the Erith grid does not just cover Ocado, it also covers Morrisons, they share the facility I believe.

    As we found with the C02 crisis, it really is not a great idea to rely on central hubs, sole manufacturers, in my view, but that's a whole new story.
     
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    A friend manages a big Asda in Nottinghamshire and took me round once. I expected to walk into a massive warehouse but it was all a 'seat of your pants' operation. Even then the waste in fresh goods was shameful.

    I wish I hadn't seen it tbh
     
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    Were off to Normandy in June next year to see the new memorial on Gold Beach, should I be crossing my fingers now.
     
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    That butcher from dad's army has the answer.
     
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    See what you did there.
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    <laugh>
     
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    That's the Irish, Italians, Greeks and Czechs seriously pissed off. Cracks starting to appear it seems.
     
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  19. Bank of England 2

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    Isn't that effectively Piracy on the High Seas, which I believe is one of the few things that is still punishable by hanging. Instead of 'summoning' the French ambassador, just the hang the twat.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    TBF it's the Irish Freedom Party stamping their feet, whoever they are.

    Perhaps everyone is furious but the Greeks aren't exactly fiscally responsible.

    Anyway it's not the Greeks, it's the Chinese he's after.
     
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