Coronavirus: Please use this thread for all COVID19 talk!

I still don't understand why vaccinated people don't require a test as well tbh. It's clear that it doesn't stop it spreading so it's a bit baffling that it's not required.

 

This is why I don't get the 'NHS/Care staff must be vaccinated to protect their patients' mantra .. vaccinated people still catch covid, they still spread it, so not sure what the difference is, besides forcing people to have a vaccine they might not need.

 

I completely agree. I would say the least likely people to transmit the virus are those who have actually caught Covid and recovered. I read somewhere that their immunity is higher than the double-vaccinated, for a few months anyway.

 

The vaccine reduces the chances of catching or transmitting the virus. That's better than not having any protection at all. My wife works with someone who refused the vaccine and guess what, they are off with Covid. If you don't have the vaccine you are in the most likely group to catch Covid, it's as simple as that.

 

Yeah, the keyword there being reduces. Not stops, it reduces.

Unless it was absolutely certain to stop you catching & then spreading it, then we shouldn't be mandating this jab.

 

And much more likely to get seriously ill of course. So I'd say everyone needs it TBH.

 

I read the other week a 15 year old girl from Portsmouth caught covid and died from it just before she was due to be vaccinated. She had no health issues prior to covid. Healthy, unvaccinated people are dying from covid. A vaccine won't stop the spread, but it will prevent a lot of people like this girl from dying.

 

And that is sad, but the odds are incredibly low for that age group.

I still believe it should be a person's choice ... those who are vaccinated have good protection if they catch it, whether it comes from a fellow vaccinated person or not. And those who choose not to, that's the risk they/we take.

 

That's just ridiculous. Reducing the spread reduces the chance of it mutating into another, possibly more contagious or deadly, variant. It's all about probabilities over the population as a whole, not just about individual people.

 

But vaccines don't stop the spread, that's my point!!!

We could still get a mutation via a vaccinated person. Then what?

Forget probability, it only needs one person and one mutation, regardless of whether someone is vaccinated or not.

 

IT REDUCES THE CHANCES!!!

 

No need to shout, Chilcs. I'm aware it reduces the chances, but you know, you have your opinion, I have mine ... I'm leaving it here.

 

3 men are walking down a road. Fred has Zero chance of being hit by a meteorite, Harry has a 10% chance, and Albert has a 90% chance.

Given that Fred doesn’t actually exist, which of the other two would you rather be?

 

The requirements are in place but, just a guess, the free for all UK policy that lets people mingle without restrictions that has led to 40000+ infections a day, probably means that double vaccinated tourists are the ones exporting the virus, rather than those who currently do the tests.
I can see tests being introduced for all, at some point. Until the 4th of October, Brits had to do a test 2 days before flying back to the UK, when it really should have been the other way around.

 

Yes agree with that and the likelihood of further travel restrictions.

 

So, this meteorite: Did it originate from a Chinese laboratory?

 

The other benefit of the vaccine is that whereas the infection rate is getting up towards the levels in January, and here in the UK we are by far the worst in the world, the numbers of deaths nationally are far lower. Along with the new drug treatments the evidence suggests that having increased immunity from the vaccine helps fight the disease.

 

It also drastically reduces the amount of time that people spend hospitalized, which has considerable benefits for public health in general. The vaccine is not perfect, but in a world where everyone was vaccinated, COVID would be reduced to a background problem at most.

 

West of England latest figures. Avoid Cheltenham seems to be the underlying message, but everywhere is getting worse,

 

More than 1 in 1000 children in the Pfizer vax trial suffered serious adverse events!!!!!!!!!*


*Like eating loose change.