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  1. GrumpyTooth

    GrumpyTooth New Member

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    Hey lads this is my first post on the F1 forum,
    Does anyone think that if Button was driving with redbull he'd be closer to winning the championship than what he was and what does every1 think about the DRS and KERS my apologies if any of these topics have been mentioned before.
     
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  2. di Fredsta!

    di Fredsta! Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, anyone driving a red bull would still be in contention (out of anyone good anyway). And I think DRS is a good idea, but ive never liked kers.
     
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  3. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Hey, welcome to the board!

    If Button was in the Red Bull I'm pretty sure he'd be a lot closer to Vettel, but Vettel's drives have been immense this year so I still feel he'd have won the championship.

    As for DRS and KERS, well I like KERS and I would like to see it developed so drivers get a set capacity and then can choose how to use it (i.e. lots of power for short time or low power for long time). I'd also like DRS to be changed to a set time per race, say 2 minutes and then let the drivers choose where and when they use it.
     
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  4. GrumpyTooth

    GrumpyTooth New Member

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    I agree with the KERS but for DRS it would still have to apply within the 1 second so for example if I was in first and you second then I overtake you after the detection zone that would mean I have KERS and you don't then 1 minute later I use it.Do you not think that would be a bit of disadvantage?
     
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  5. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Welcome. Often this season McLaren have been quick enough on Sundays to challenge Red Bull but still Vettel takes the win and makes the Red Bull look dominant. I believe he would be closer to Vettel but I think Vettel would still be comfortably leading the Championship.
     
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  6. Masanari

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    If Button had equal status with Vettel then I think it would be very close between them.

    As for DRS and KERS; I was never a fan of DRS and I still think that it is not needed but I think both DRS and KERS should have a set amount of times you can use them in a race and it is up to the driver when and where they use their allocation.
     
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  7. martial artist

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    good evening GT

    welcome to the party ,
    difficult to say if button would have been closer to the WDC in the RB7 , personally i dont think there was much between the red bull and the mclaren all season , clearly those two teams were the class of the field for most of the season , and for me the significant difference between both teams was vettel --

    button is a obviously a very good driver but ultimately i believe he is flawed in some respects hence i cannot rate him from the top drawer and cannot really give you an answer without being influenced by his flaws ,

    as for the DRS , i cant get enthusiastic over anything that gives the chasing driver an unfair advantage , so for me the sooner it is flushed down trap 1 the better -
    have not got a problem with KERS as everybody has got it --
     
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  8. martial artist

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    good evening GT

    welcome to the party ,
    difficult to say if button would have been closer to the WDC in the RB7 , personally i dont think there was much between the red bull and the mclaren all season , clearly those two teams were the class of the field for most of the season , and for me the significant difference between both teams was vettel --

    button is a obviously a very good driver but ultimately i believe he is flawed in some respects hence i cannot rate him from the top drawer and cannot really give you an answer without being influenced by his flaws ,

    as for the DRS , i cant get enthusiastic over anything that gives the chasing driver an unfair advantage , so for me the sooner it is flushed down trap 1 the better -
    have not got a problem with KERS as everybody has got it --
     
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    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a fan of DRS. It's OK in theory if the FIA get the zone right, but there are loads of factors that affect a car's overtaking ability and they evolve constantly throughout the race, so it's impossible to get the zone perfect. I'd say it works about three percent of the time, the other 97% of the time it either has no effect or makes overtaking too easy. I hope it's scrapped, it's not needed with the Pirelli tyres anyway.

    I think the only driver on the grid who could cause Vettel problems in the same car is Alonso, Button would've been closer than he is but still wouldn't have taken the title to the wire in my opinion.
     
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  10. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    Hey welcome to the board,

    I think you have to wonder what other drivers could do in a red bull and you would think they would be in contention but... You have to wonder why Webber wasnt??
     
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  11. Kickass

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    I think the DRS has made the racing a bit artificial at times this year, my memory is not too good these days but I was disappointed when Webber did Schumacher for third a few races back (was it Monza) because of the artificial aid, was rooting for him to get on the podium, great defensive performance from the great man
     
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  12. RoadRunner

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    Montreal. Webber retired in Monza and Shumacher was involved in controversy with Hamilton.
    Anywho, welcome to the board mate. <ok>
     
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  13. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Yeah it has been a killjoy on a few tracks and under-effective on others. Its all about the position and legnth of the zone. Which this year has been a shot a dark. Next year i hope DRS will improve.
     
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  14. GrumpyTooth

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    I agree some DRS zones are **** but and very non-effective but I think DRS,KERS and the new tyres has made it a good season.
     
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  15. jerseymackem

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    Welcome mate

    I think that Kuzuki Nakafuckingjima would win a championship in a Red Bull at this rate!
     
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    Bergkamp a Dutch master New Member

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    even I might win it in a RED BULL.
     
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  17. Nazara

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    and yet Webber still hasn't won in the Red Bull....
     
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  18. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Oh i agree, I just expect it to be even better next year. Easier at say Korea and harder at Canada.
     
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  19. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    1. Vettel is favoured. If a driver was given a red bull and a no2 im pretty sure they could all win it.
    2. Lets face it. Webbers been **** this year.
     
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  20. RoadRunner

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    That Korean zone was stupid. You could overtake into the first corner only for it to be taken away moments later when the overtaken gets the DRS. I think there should have been separate zones on the first and third straights.
     
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