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Match Day Thread Euro 2020 Final. Italy v England

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  1. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

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    But thats 5000 trying to get out.... boom boom..
     
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  2. Plum

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    From the video I saw we've got off light.
     
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  3. PLT

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    Bottle throwing is all the rage lately. Where's this come from?
     
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  4. City Man

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    Good anti City dig there.
     
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  5. PLT

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    Who's we though?
     
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  6. The B&S Fanclub

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    Wasn't most of it down to a bent steward selling high vis jackets and accreditation to any Tom, dick or Harry? Then others rushing an open door.
     
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  7. Plum

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    Fair question but who should carry the can? The FA are the ones with ultimate responsibility and they are probably the only ones who can effect any sort of resolution or preventive measures. Tough on peaceful supporters but that's life.
     
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  8. PLT

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    Are they actually? I confess I don't really know who was responsible for security/policing so perhaps the FA were to blame on that front, but I find it hard to imagine that if people forced entry to say, a theatre or concert, that the venue would be punished and the law-abiding attendees blamed. It's a criminal matter for those involved surely.
     
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  9. City Man

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    Don't forget UEFA politics.

    Many other large European FAs always love to oblige twisting the knife when they can get us in the dock.
     
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  10. Stockholm Tiger

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    I think they'd definitely be blamed. Glastonbury was finned £15,000 over gatecrashers forcing their way in. I'm sure there are other examples.
     
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  11. Edelman

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    If we want other countries to be punished for crowd trouble we shouldnt expect to be treat different and think we are getting picked on .
     
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  12. City Man

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    Many of us are not bothered about other countries getting punished.

    It's a pathetic priggish attitude usually led by non football fans or non travelling football fans.

    It invariably bites us on the arse.
     
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    Fully agree with the ban, absolutely disgraceful scenes.
     
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    "Ticketless, drunken and drugged-up thugs" could have caused death as they stormed Wembley before the Euro 2020 final, says a review into the disorder.

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    The report by Baroness Louise Casey said there was a "collective failure" in planning for the match, which about 2,000 people got into illegally.


    It noted 17 mass breaches of disabled access gates and emergency fire doors.

    Lady Casey said the "appalling scene of disorder" as England played Italy led to a "day of national shame".

    Her report said there was a "collective failure" in planning for the match on 11 July, including a "vulnerable" stewarding operation lacking experience partly because of the pandemic and the police deployment arriving "too late".

    The knowledge that about 25,000 of Wembley's 90,000 seats would be left empty because of Covid restrictions contributed to a "perfect storm" of factors.

    "Our team of role models were in our first major final for 55 years. However they were let down by a horde of ticketless, drunken and drugged up thugs who chose to abuse innocent, vulnerable and disabled people, as well as police officers, volunteers and Wembley staff," said Lady Casey.

    "We are genuinely lucky that there was not much more serious injury or worse, and need to take the toughest possible action against people who think a football match is somehow an excuse to behave like that.

    "I am clear that the primary responsibility for what went wrong at Wembley that day lies with those who lost control of their own behaviour."

    Italy beat England on penalties to become European champions.

    The review into the disorder on the day also found that:
    • An England victory in the shootout would have created a "further huge public safety risk" with up to 6,000 people planning to storm the stadium at full-time to celebrate as the gates opened to allow ticket-holders to leave.
    • There was "a collective failure" among the organisations who staged the final to plan for the "foreseeable risk" of disorder and ticketless fans converging on the stadium.
    • Alcohol and drugs were a key factor in the disorder as fans arrived at the stadium up to eight hours before the 20:00 BST kick-off.
    • Planning for the final was hampered by the extra strain placed on authorities by managing the Covid-19 pandemic restrictions and the loss of experienced stewards.
    What does the review recommend?
    Lady Casey concluded that "law-abiding fans, our national team and our national game deserve better" and that the events of 11 July "can't be allowed to happen again".

    She said the absence of fan zones close to the stadium were "potentially a very significant factor" in the situation spiralling out of control, and that the ban on drinking on London transport was not enforced strictly enough.

    The national euphoria and focus on the final made fans gathering and disorder "foreseeable" and "there was a collective failure to plan for the worse case scenario".

    Lady Casey recommends a series of more general changes to help prevent a repeat:

    • Empowering authorities to act more strongly against fans using drugs, flares and smoke bombs at matches and around stadiums and entering stadiums without a ticket.
    • A Football Association campaign to force "a sea-change in attitudes towards supporter behaviours".
    • Better communication between the agencies overseeing the match and the flow of fans to the stadium.
    • A new category for football matches "of national significance" to make organisers aware of the unique challenges of such major events.
    The Metropolitan Police had said that 51 arrests were made connected to the final, with 26 of those made at Wembley. In all, there were 90 football-related arrests of England fans at Euro 2020.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59516147
     
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  15. PLT

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    The recommendations don't sound great do they. Most of what's quoted there seems sensible until that point but then the actions are just even more of the usual demonisation and criminalisation of normal football fans. And smoke bombs ffs.
     
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    If only they had consulted Inspector Pantsdown and Corcoran on how to handle crowds it could have all been avoided.<laugh>
     
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  17. Barchullona

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    Photos of smoke bombs in other countries in our papers are accompanied by stuff about fans creating a colourful, vibrant atmosphere. But a single smoke bomb at a game here is a danger and a threat to civilisation to civilisation as we know it.
     
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  19. Barchullona

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    And those idiots were doing that just a couple of days or so after 8 people were crushed to death at the Travis Scott concert. Not the first time at a rock concert either but no calls for rock concerts or festivals to be all seater only.
     
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    I remember the term 'drunken fans' was used to shift the blame for the Hillsbourgh disaster too.
    Now they've added 'drugged up' to it too. HTF do they know ? Did they all get tested or breathalised ?
     
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