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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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  1. Willhoops

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    So one of Corbyn's Labour MP's is found guilty of threatening to throw acid in someone's face and send naked photographs of her to her chilldren. And Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott give her good character reference. Unbelievable
     
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    In court, Diane Abbott described Claudia Webbe’s ‘warm, empathic manner’
     
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    Aye throw the book at the ****.
    I hear 'the weasel with the easel' is heading back to the UK. Hope hes had a nice time.
     
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    Good luck blocking the roads in Glasgow - can seriously see some major incidents of assault happening during COP26 if they try blocking the roads round Glasgow - and that's just if they block me, let alone the thousands of other maniacs around my way!

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    Image caption,Insulate Britain protesters blocked the M25 in Essex in September
    Protesters who block major roads during the UN climate conference in Glasgow will be moved and may face arrest, police have said.

    Police Scotland said this would apply even if the COP26 protests are peaceful as they could be unlawful and unsafe.

    Dep Ch Con Will Kerr told BBC Scotland officers have a "whole range of tactics" to use in such circumstances.

    Although disruption is expected, DCC Kerr insisted emergency services would still respond to those who need them.

    "Some protesters will inevitably try and block some roads. If it's not a main arterial route, we'll take a sensible proportionate approach to it.," he said.

    "If it's a main route, if it involves movement plans for the world leaders, if it involves major disruption to the life of the city, then we will move in and if the protesters won't move, we will remove them."

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    Image caption,Deputy Chief Constable Will Kerr said police will move protesters who block major routes
    Asked how quickly the police would move people, he said: "It depends on how many people, what the environment is, but it also depends on how quickly we need to move for the safety of the protesters themselves.

    "Running on to major roads to try and block it is a very unsafe thing to do. If we need to step in quickly, we will step in quickly."

    The force said that because the UN actively encourages protest, certain groups have been accredited and assigned a time and venue to gather.

    Police Scotland has met with a number of groups to discuss how the event will be policed, including Extinction Rebellion.

    Assistant Chief Constable Bernie Higgins said there was "no one size fits all to protest".

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    Image caption,Assistant Chief Constable Bernie Higgins (left) and Deputy Chief Constable Will Kerr (right) briefed the media on policing plans for COP26
    "Some groups will do a lie in," he said. "If people want to go to George Square and lie down, crack on, because you're really not going to have much impact on the conference.

    "If however you decide to try and shut the Kingston Bridge then that's really, really dangerous for yourself, it's really, really dangerous to other road users and potentially it would prevent ambulances responding to calls so we would move very swiftly to clear that area and it would result in arrests."

    He added that police could put diversions in place if protesters block minor routes.

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    Image caption,A number of roads will already be closed during the climate summit
    About 10,000 officers will be deployed each day to the conference in Glasgow next month, where around 120 world leaders and heads of state are expected to attend.

    Every force in the UK will assist Police Scotland with operations, including British Transport Police, the Civil Nuclear Constabulary and Ministry of Defence police.

    Specialist resources such as firearms officers, dog handlers, mounted branch, search teams and the marine unit will be used.

    Significant events during the conference, running from 31 October to 12 November, include the two-day world leaders summit on 1-2 November and the youth event on 5 November.

    Police Scotland also expect 100,000 people to attend a climate rally on 6 November in the city centre.

    The style of policing throughout the event will be "friendly, fair and accommodating", according to the force.

    In addition to road closures, DCC Kerr said there was potential for "further disruption" if pressure on agencies and services becomes "more acute".

    However he stressed: "I can reassure the public that if they need an emergency response from us they will get it."

    DCC Kerr added: "There's no straightforward, simple or single answer to the complex problem of tens of thousands of people and well over 100 world leaders moving about a city over a compressed period of time.

    "Our principal and simple objective is relatively straight forward, to run a safe and secure environment in which the conference can take place. We are very confident the conference will take place in that secure environment."

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    The COP26 global climate summit in Glasgow in November is seen as crucial if climate change is to be brought under control. Almost 200 countries are being asked for their plans to cut emissions, and it could lead to major changes to our everyday lives.
     
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    I don't like sharing too much personal information on here (or elsewhere online) but I think I've shared before that I started my career working as a researcher to an MP in the House of Commons. Incredibly sadly, given the news this afternoon, that MP was Sir David Amess.

    David was a brilliant boss, and became a good friend over the last decade. He was so kind to my family and always took an interest in my career once I'd moved on, and my growing family. He was certainly eccentric, but was also willing to stand up for what he believed in - for example he was the only Tory MP to vote for the Fox Hunting ban because of his passion for animal welfare. He was also a passionate campaigner for better care of the elderly, and was so proud of the Warm Homes Bill he worked with the Lab govt to introduce in 2000.

    I'm so shocked that he has been murdered in a constituency surgery - especially given how many of those surgeries I attended with him. Whatever you think of politicians, we've seen Jo Cox and my friend David murdered in their day to day business. Stephen Timms stabbed. The assistant of Nigel Jones stabbed to death with a sword while protecting Nigel. Enough if enough. These individuals deserve better protection and it's a ****ing travesty that our democracy allows our representatives to be executed on the streets.

    Rest In Peace David. I'll miss gossiping with you over a cup of (overly strong) tea and arguing with you about Europe.
     
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    Sorry for your loss Raving. RIP
     
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    What a sad day, and so sorry you've lost a friend, Raving. He sounds a thoroughly decent human being, as Jo Cox was before him.

    There will surely have to be greater protection for MP's when out in their constituencies. But also, someone needs to address the knife epidemic we're going through which also threatens workers on the front line daily.
     
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    Such sad news and so sorry for your loss. He sounds like one of the good ones so terrible that he's gone.
     
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    Totally. People will criticise MPs for being out of touch, but if this is what happens when they go out into communities, can you really blame them?
     
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    So sorry you have lost a friend in this way.
    I wasn't aware of him as an MP, but it seems he was genuinely one of the good guys.
    Absolutely tragic loss and we really must protect all our representatives around the clock and not just when within the protection of Westminster.

    RIP.
     
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    Lovely tribute to an old buddy.

    It is really shocking that two MP's have died at the hands of knife wielding lunatics. Sadly the divisions in politics in the U.K. appear to be deep.

    May he rest in peace. Thoughts with you Quite Possibly.
     
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    Bloody hell, only just seen the news. My thoughts go to his family and friends.
     
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    Fun story about how he got his knighthood too:

    The Tory Party hand out knighthoods to MPs based on length of service. So all of the 1974 intake will be knighted, and then the '79 intake, '83, '87 so on so on. Sometimes the order is broken to placate a fired minister but it normally happens in chronological order. Under Cameron, who didn't get on with David, they knighted all of the '83 intake except for David and moved on to the '87 lot.

    At the time, Farage was riding very high in the polls and it was that period where Carswell / Reckless were defecting to UKIP and rumours abounded about more defections coming. David, being a well known Eurosceptic (we didn't have Brexiteers quite yet) had lunch with Nigel Farage at a restaurant he knew the whips ate at regularly. Oddly enough, the knighthood happened at the next possible opportunity.

    Good old fashioned realpolitik <laugh>
     
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    Somali national being named in the papers as the alleged killer, possibly Islamic terrorist.
     
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    They don't call him Vazelene for nothing... <laugh>

     
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