Off Topic Prince Andrew
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Same here as in this case we're talking about. He will generally do what he wants and be bare-faced about it. To him doing it isn't bringing the royals into disrepute - whether that's freeloading or shagging some trafficked girl, even though to the rest of us it is. Nobody will kick up a fuss so he and the royal don't really care... unless he has to admit it publicly, then him and not just him but he knows the royal hierarchy, would consider it as damaging.
Edit: My other thing about it not happening in its 1000+ years history is just pointing out how deluded they are in thinking there's not been plenty already in their history that's already brought them into disrepute countless times.
This is why I'm absolutely convinced he's guilty of something.
It’s not that clear cut. Ignorance is no excuse, if she was underage in whatever state they were in, then unless he asked her specifically and she lied to him, then saying ‘I didn’t know’ doesn’t clear him. As for the trafficking, the prosecution are obvs going to try and maintain that he knew fine well what Epstein and Maxwell were doing, and his visit to Epstein’s mansion after his release from a sentence for noncing a 14 yr old in which he did a plea deal for a further 36 underage girls to be included, is a pretty good indication that he both knew and didn’t have a moral issue with it.
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The other question tho is why did she wait about 20 years to make her claim, unless she only felt free enough to make her claim after Epstein died
She alleges there were three places: over here, New York and Epstein Island.
She was 17 and that's over the age of consent in all three, IIRC.
The difference is if he knew that she was being trafficked, which would make it illegal.
If you go to Epstein Island what the **** do you expect to happen?
Epstein had paid her, she’s just going back for another go now he’s snuffed it. My personal view on her isn’t great tbh, but it makes no difference to the potential crime & if he’s going to end up writing a big cheque (or rather Mummy will) then he’s just another sap who’s left himself exposed, **** him, he’s a **** weasel anyway, always has been.
To be fair to her, she claims that she didn't have any choice.He'd only owned it for a couple of years at the time too, so it didn't have that reputation.
I wonder who owns it now?
He'd only owned it for a couple of years at the time too, so it didn't have that reputation.
I wonder who owns it now?
Gylfi Sigurdsson.
He'd only owned it for a couple of years at the time too, so it didn't have that reputation.
I wonder who owns it now?
Robert Maxwell is living there in secret, funded by his daughter
Oh right I thought that one of the states she alleges he had sex with her in, she was underage at the time. Was that ever part of a separate claim or something?
Not sure. I just checked and it's 16, 17 and 16 and she was 17 when they met.
I think the prostitution angle would make it illegal in at least one of them, as it's a higher age.
The sex trafficking one would do the lot, I think.