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Daily Racing Thread Sunday 12th. September 2021

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  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Sunday's Meetings

    Chelmsford
    A/W 7 Races 1:00-4:20p.m.
    Curragh
    Flat 8 Races 1:45-5:45p.m.
    Musselburgh
    Flat 7 Races 1:55-5:20p.m.
    Bath
    Flat 7 Races 2:15-5:40p.m.
    Haydock (E)
    Flat 7 Races 4:10-6:55p.m.

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    Good Luck<ok>
     
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  2. Grendel

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    The Moyglare isn't the most inspiring renewal and it seems doubtful that the winner will be pushing Inspiral off the top of the 1000 Guineas betting.

    Agartha took time to shed her maiden tag but has won her last two and I was with her last time when she was quite an impressive winner. That makes her the one to beat but Homeless Songs already holds a verdict over Agartha and the Frankel filly can surely be expected to progress. The one question mark would be the 66 day absence since her last appearance but the Weld stable are in form at 28% win rate and I thought Homeless Songs was the one with scope to come forward in a slightly under par looking Group 1.

    The colts race for the National Stakes looks stronger and I stayed loyal to Native Trail. He did me a favour last time and that win looks more solid through Masekela and then Bayside Boy. I felt 5/1 underestimated the Appleby colt and it sounded like Native Trail was considered their leading colt this season.

    3.30 Curragh Homeless Songs 3/1
    4.05 Curragh Native Trail 5/1

    2 x singles and a double
     
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  3. rainermariarilke

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    Will you be taking on Beowulf at Bath (3.20) ?
     
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  4. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Evening, all. Hope everyone well.

    Have had a little bit each-way on CLEARANCE (22/1 at time of writing) in the concluding contest, 'the lucky last', at Haydock Park (6.55) tomorrow.

    His history has been well documented on the forum, in the past few weeks, but in brief he was claimed by the Blake's just under a month ago and on his sole run for them was a highly creditable runner-up at Ffos Las. Clearance is in pursuit of some of that Skybet Sunday Series loot, of the morrow, and it would be a wonderful achievement, for his new yard, if he could oblige, in a £30k televised heat, so soon after being bought out of a claimer!

    Given the money on offer this race does look a most competative affair but the trip of 2 miles will hold no fears for Clearance (triple winner, on the level, at 2 miles+) and that is something that probably can't be said of several of his opponents tomorrow. Meanwhile, the Blake barn are ticking over nicely, at the min, with 4 out of their last 10 runners hitting the frame.

    I still maintain that Clearance may be better handicapped over hurdles but a mark of 78, at Haydock Park, looks workable and I really hope he can go close in this event.

    Good luck all.
     
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  5. Pilgrim

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    25/1 now, I jump in the pool with you.

    Curragh
    17,45 Still Standing 28/1 e/w six places with PP and betfair, five with bet365
     
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  6. QuarterMoonII

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    After yesterday, I should start by saying here are the ones to ignore...

    In the Blandford Stakes I can see an upset. I would not touch Love although she has conditions in her favour, she ran very poorly last time when a last minute substitute in the Juddmonte International and her effort in the King George was nothing to get excited about. I expect that Woodland Garden is in here as a pacemaker.

    The Flying Five looks a three-way between the three principals, Nunthorpe winner Winter Power, third that day Dragon Symbol (hard to see grounds for reversal of that form) and last year’s winner Glass Slippers. I cannot decide between the two ladies but the three year old is surely the more likely to find improvement from last time.

    The form pick in the Moyglare Stud Stakes is clearly Agartha but she is not favourite because she was beaten in a maiden race by Dermot Weld’s once-raced Homeless Songs. Whilst the latter could be anything, I would prefer to go with Joseph O’Brien’s Debutante winner but not at the skinny price.

    So I have pretty much “no bet” the whole card at The Curragh. The National Stakes should go to Point Lonsdale going on the bare form of his victories to date, although the form was let down badly yesterday by the runner-up in the last two running a stinker when selected by me; however, Native Trail should make this a stern test.
     
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  7. QuarterMoonII

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    There is a very strange look to Arc Trials day at Longchamp because Aidan O’Brien has so many runners. This is a fixture where his runners were usually conspicuous by their absence in the years when I used to travel to Longchamp.

    Just the six line up for the Prix Niel with Derby winner Adayar absent because of a setback (does that put his Arc participation in question?). Since failing at Epsom, Bolshoi Ballet has been across The Pond winning a moderately contested Grade 1 at Belmont before being beaten in one at Saratoga on fast ground. It is hard to fancy either of Andre Fabre’s runners and Baby Rider and Bubble Gift were well beaten fifth and sixth in the Grand Prix de Paris two months ago and must be here to get fit for three weeks time. That only leaves Pretty Tiger, second in the Prix Guillaume d’Ornano having been sixth in the Prix Du Jockey Club. So it is hard to see a real Arc candidate emerging this year.

    With Wonderful Tonight defecting from the Prix Foy because of the ground, this looks to have become much easier for Prix d’Ispahan winner Skalleti, although he is ineligible for the Arc as a gelding. Broome won the Grand Prix de Saint Cloud two starts back after finishing second in the Hardwicke at Royal Ascot but it is hard to get away from his poor showing in the King George last time, so I wonder if Frankie will change tactics and try to make all today. Andre Fabre’s gelding Sublimis is surely in here as a guide to the value of the form as he would be a Placepot horse in the UK.

    The most interesting of the three trials in undoubtedly the Group 1 Prix Vermeille, featuring Oaks winner Snowfall, reunited with Frankie who was aboard that day. La Joconde was an also-ran in the Oaks having been near to the pace, whilst the well regarded Teona simply never went a yard so that run is best ignored. Prix de Diane winner Joan Of Arc also makes the trip from Ballydoyle following her third in the Nassau and she is reunited with her Diane winning jockey Ioritz Mendizabal. It is hard to make a case for the two Fabre fillies Philomene and Burgarita on the Diane form although neither was beaten far and there are an extra two furlongs to go. I would have given Teona a second chance here as she won a Listed race easily last time but she has too much to make up on the principals, so I am going with the upset that could shake up the Arc betting: JOAN OF ARC to beat Snowfall, as I think she will be fine with the extra distance.
     
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  8. Janabelle13

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    Wonderful Tonight has been retired due to a fetlock fracture
     
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    Bolshoi Ballet has been withdrawn due to a vaccination issue (apparently its not Covid:shocked:)
     
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  10. QuarterMoonII

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    Thanks for correcting me. I had not read that so I just assumed it was not easy enough for her on the Bois de Boulogne so they had taken her out. I should have realised that she had gone missing from the Arc betting. <doh>
     
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  11. QuarterMoonII

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    I wonder what “medications” he was on when he ran in the States... hopefully not the ones that The Donald advocated taking.
     
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  12. Grendel

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    The 4.35 Haydock is a wide open affair. I liked the look of Ancient Times. The 3YO moved to Harry Eustace and since joining him he has landed two wins from five runs. His last win has seen him raised 3 lbs but that was a new personal best and it looks reassuring that the 2nd and 3rd from that race have won on their next starts.

    In a tricky race I sided with Hayley Turner's mount at 8/1.

    4.35 Haydock Ancient Times 8/1

     
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  13. OddDog

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    Forget the Niel - only 3 lengths covered the field at the finish and the 8/11 fav was last.
     
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    16.40 Curragh

    Kind of the Castle 28/1
     
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    I hope you are right, I have a 10/1 e/w bet four places.
     
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    Wow - Teona beats Snowfall who failed to quicken appreciably when asked and couldn't reel the Varian filly in.
     
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    The Foy goes to the Japanese horse but Broome's proximity in 2nd doesn't give the form a great look.

    The best Arc trial was at Doncaster yesterday, with the Weld filly's 2nd place at Leopardstown also catching the eye.

    Adayar and Tarnawa joint favs around 3/1 now with Snowfall out to 4s (6 in a place) and Hurricane Lane around 9/2.
     
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    Not quite Pinatubo but that was impressive from Native Trail
     
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    Andy Stewart RIP
    Only 70 but a life well lived one would imagine
     
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    Put a lot into racing and always came across as a decent bloke on the Telly. RIP <rose>
     
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