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Whats our team worth?

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  1. Oh Titus She Said No

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    Nasri is the better player, but Ben Arfa strikes me as someone who can change the game with one touch/pass/shot. He'll be our match winner like Ronaldo for Real or Messi at Barca where as Nasri is always just a team player.
     
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  2. Chappaz

    Chappaz Active Member

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    Now this is a tricky one, because what I think they're worth in value to the team may be much higher than the real value. For example, I consider Krul such an important part of the team that I would want us to turn down any offer, even £10mill+.

    However, I'll try to be fair:


    Steve Harper - 500k
    Fabricio Coloccini - 8m
    Davide Santon - 6m (could be £15mill+)
    Yohan Cabaye - 20m
    Danny Simpson - 3m
    Mike Williamson 2m
    Danny Guthrie - 2.5m
    Hatem Ben Arfa - 20m (could be £25mill)
    Peter Løvenkrands - 500k
    Mehdi Abeid - 1.5m
    James Perch - 1m
    Dan Gosling - 3.5m
    Ryan Taylor - 3mill
    Alan Smith - 0m
    Jonás Gutiérrez - 7m
    Demba Ba - 12m
    Leon Best - 7m
    Sylvain Marveaux - 6m
    Shola Ameobi - 1m
    Cheick Tioté - 20m
    Gabriel Obertan - 5m
    Tim Krul - 9m
    Steven Taylor - 9m
    Sammy Ameobi - 2.5m
    Haris Vučkić - 3m
    Nile Ranger - 1m
    Shane Ferguson - 4m
    Tamás Kádár - 750k
    Fraser Forster - 1.5m
     
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  3. Vuckic's Faces

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    Steve Harper - 500k
    Fabricio Coloccini - 9m
    Davide Santon - 6m
    Yohan Cabaye - 15m
    Danny Simpson - 5m
    Mike Williamson 1m
    Danny Guthrie - 2m
    Hatem Ben Arfa - 10m
    Peter Løvenkrands - 1m
    Mehdi Abeid - 2m
    James Perch - 0 (just get him out of the ****ing club)
    Dan Gosling - 5m
    Ryan Taylor - 4mill
    Alan Smith - 250k
    Jonás Gutiérrez - 9m
    Demba Ba - 10m
    Leon Best - 6m
    Sylvain Marveaux - 7m
    Shola Ameobi - 1m
    Cheick Tioté - 25m
    Gabriel Obertan - 6m
    Tim Krul - 10m
    Steven Taylor - 7m
    Sammy Ameobi - 1m
    Haris Vučkić - 3m
    Nile Ranger - 1m
    Shane Ferguson - 4m
    Tamás Kádár - 750k
    Fraser Forster - 1.5m
     
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  4. The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco

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    £1 billion if you are Kenny Dalglish
     
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  5. Ameobi's Apprentice

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    Steve Harper - 500k
    Davide Santon - 6 mill
    Colo - 9 mill
    Saylor - 7 mill
    Simpson - 4 mill
    Raylor - 3 mill
    Jonas - 7 mill
    Ben Arfa - 9 mill
    Cabaye - 13 mill
    Tiote - 20 mill
    Obertan - 4 mill
    Marveaux - 6 mill
    Guthrie 2.5 mill
    Abeid - 800k ( He's not even played 1st team football )
    Ferguson - 1 mill
    Perch - 900k
    Vuckic - 2 mill
    Williamson - 3 mill
    Smith - 500k
    Sameobi - 1 mill at most
    Gosling - 3.5 mill
    Leon Best - 6 mill
    Demba Ba - 10 mill
    Lovenkrands 1 mill
    Shola Ameobi - 1.7 mill
    Ranger - Street Cred as he's so Gangsta
    Kadar - 600k
    Forster - 2 mill
    Tim Krul - 8 mill

    Realistic i think.
     
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  6. Travelsick07

    Travelsick07 Well-Known Member

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    Some contracts are running out, so Guthrie 1mio tops, also Coloccini never 9, more like 5-6. Tiote could be worth 30. 13 for Cabaye is too much, 6? Same for Ben Arfa right now. Best someone had at 7 mio...sorry mate, more like 3. Obertan 2.5, Ba 7-8.

    Alan Smith however... well he's a keeper in-he?
     
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  7. Rafa's Championship Party

    Rafa's Championship Party Well-Known Member

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    I don't a lot about how much people are worth in the current market but are people really seriously telling me Coloccini and Taylor are worth 12 million. Coloccini is a great defender but he is ageing and would be 10 million maximum. Taylor is improving but still had a pretty poor game on Sunday and in reality probably worth about 7 million. Though to be fair Andy Carroll is worth nowhere near 35 million and people like Alan Shearer always your worth what people are people are prepared to pay for you.
     
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  8. Oh Titus She Said No

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    Most realistic one.
     
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  9. Flying Dutchman

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    Corrected :laugh:
     
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  10. GrumpyTooth

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    just in total I think they are worth 1.5 billion
     
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  11. Badgers Assemble

    Badgers Assemble Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
     
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  12. WayneLikesBlobs

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    Steve Harper - 500k
    Fabricio Coloccini - 4m (high wages & ageing)
    Davide Santon - 5m
    Yohan Cabaye - 12m
    Danny Simpson - 2.5m
    Mike Williamson 2m
    Danny Guthrie - 1.8m
    Hatem Ben Arfa - 10m (back from broken leg, lets see how he turns out..)
    Peter Løvenkrands - free
    Mehdi Abeid - 2m
    James Perch - 900k
    Dan Gosling - 2.5m
    Ryan Taylor -3m
    Alan Smith - free
    Jonás Gutiérrez - 4m
    Demba Ba - 7m
    Leon Best - 5m
    Sylvain Marveaux - 3.5m
    Shola Ameobi - 2m
    Cheick Tioté - 12m
    Gabriel Obertan - 3m
    Tim Krul - 7m
    Steven Taylor - 6m
    Sammy Ameobi - 2m
    Haris Vu&#269;ki&#263; - 2m
    Nile Ranger - 1m
    Shane Ferguson - 1.5m
    Tamás Kádár - 750k
    Fraser Forster - 2m

    I think a lot of people have overrated our team. Sure some might value these guys at a certain price but other clubs realistically would never match these prices (making your valuation invalid) so i valued them at what i think other clubs realistically would pay. :)
     
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  13. Alfie

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    About half as much as Liverpool are willing to pay <ok>
     
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    Neven.
     
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  16. Toon_Tiger

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    This is rather embarrassing to look at...

    i think this shows we are vastly over rating some of our players.

    i love cabaye i think he is an awesome player but he signed for what 4 mill.. and in a handful of games he has put 16 million onto his value?

    ben arfa gets injured for a year after playing 2-3 games.. cant remember.. comes back has a couple of sub appearences and adds 15 million to his value?

    wow
     
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  17. Beatski

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    twenteen squillion pesos
     
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  18. Chappaz

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    <doh><doh><doh> Why don't some people read the original message in the thread?

    So the question is what do WE think OUR players are worth? Or at least, what could they end up being worth in the not too distant future? This has nothing to do with what teams would pay. For example, after recent events, do I think that any team would dish out a huge sum of cash for Ben Arfa? No. However, do I think he has it in him to be a £20mill+ player? **** yeah I do.

    Anyone who thinks Ben Arfa is worth £8mill in terms of his ability is frankly a helmet.

    And why can't some people comprehend the notion of a bargain? Tiote, Cabaye and Ben Arfa are three players who we have bought for vastly under their actual value. What a club was willing to sell for in specific circumstances does not set the value of a player, and considering these circumstances (Tiote was out of favour, Ben Arfa went on strike and Cabaye had a release cause in his contract) we've got some ****ing cracking details. We can easily add at least £10mill to the sums we paid to get an idea of their real value. Perhaps not at this very moment in some cases, but eventually.

    There is a reason why we're currently sitting 4th in the table and unbeaten, you know. I think some people (scratch that, most people) underestimate the class we have in the side and what it's worth.
     
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  19. The Secret Ingredient

    The Secret Ingredient Well-Known Member

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    please log in to view this image
     
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  20. Toon_Tiger

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    Well MY opinion as a NUFC fan is the stated values are over the top...

    just because i apply LOGIC to my post doesnt make me a "helmet"

    I cant be arsed to argue in depth with you as obviously every differing opinion to yours seems to be wrong.
     
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