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Match Day Thread Hull City v Derby

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Aug 17, 2021.

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City win?

Poll closed Aug 18, 2021.
  1. City win

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  2. Derby Days

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  1. brownbagtiger

    brownbagtiger Well-Known Member

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    Having slept on it, I’m actually now concerned that the new team tactic will be “pass the ball to Hudd” in all circumstances, which won’t solve anything. Like previous seasons when Bowen was our saviour, it all went to **** when he wasn’t playing.

    I hope I’m wrong but last night brought back memories of the second half of our last time in the Championship. On last nights performance we’re going to struggle to find three other teams worse than us. Being dependent on certain players being fit and available doesn’t work, we know that.

    Grant earned the right to have another stab at managing in this league, and we don’t know how much he has his hands tied by the owners. But another run of losing matches with “this is our system, Plan B is doing Plan A better” is going to lose Grant the fans. We’ve seen it before and our memories aren’t that short!
     
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  2. Tony Angelino

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    It clearly wasn’t working, I know we ended up with eaves and Josh up front but not only didn’t they get any service, I’m not sure eaves is worth giving any service.
    Wonder if terry will realise we need that plan b yet
     
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  3. cheshireles

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    Last night was abject, lost count of the number of times when we were defending we had a straight line of 6 at the back as The Doc and Smallwood dropped deep. Midfield was almost anonymous and Terry couldn't or wouldn't change his tactics at all. 2 young centre backs looked petrified when put under pressure.
    One of the worst City matches I've ever seen, surely won't be this bad again!
    Thought last night also showed the lack of depth in our squad, lose 3 key players and looks like we have a problem. The bench last night Hudd aside looked weak.
    Terry, you've got your work cut out, your players, your tactics. Hoping for much better at Fulham on Saturday which based on last night is a big ask. Mitrovic against Jones and Greaves, tough game for a couple of young 'uns I feel.
     
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  4. Tony Angelino

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    I’m at a loss as to why people say Tom slows us down, he very rarely gives the ball away unlike the others. Even if he goes sideways at least we keep the ball, If the players around him make the runs and find good positions I’m sure Tom will find them
     
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  5. cheshireles

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    Impossible for anybody to have slowed us down further last night!
     
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  6. brownbagtiger

    brownbagtiger Well-Known Member

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    I agree 200%.

    our problem comes because we get over reliant on one player to dig us out of the ****. The benefit of Hudd should be in teaching the youngsters to do what he does, as well as his 30 minute cameos on match day.
     
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  7. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

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    Think there is a lot of impatience re the young lads. They are going to need time to get to grips with the championship and it’s higher standard. We where never going to be a top half team this year.

    As for the two lads at the back they will find their feet.

    anyone remember Turner and Delaney when they first arrived. Also Whitehurst.

    All takes time.
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    He's retired.
     
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    Very true, this is why we could do with a bit more experience to help them along, let’s see what the next couple of weeks brings both in bringing anyone in and results. The last thing you want is all the confidence from last season draining out of this young side.
     
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  11. Evington

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    Think I did. Two games, two errors. McCannn stayed far too loyal to Long for most/all of the relegation season. Can't afford to do it.
     
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  12. GlassHalfHull

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    My first City game since Stoke away and no better. This is going to be a long tough season unless McCann has something up his sleeve that we are unaware of. Derby looked poor early on, and used their experience well to get a deserved away win. I won't get critical of individuals, they'll know they need to step up.
     
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  13. Evington

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    He just needs moving out. Yes, even if we don't replace him.
     
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  14. Evington

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    Mitrovic must be licking his lips
     
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  15. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully Tom H isn’t the last of the experienced men needed.
     
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    Inside the first 20 minutes Derby cut us open at will and if they had anyone in their side that could shoot on target we would have been 3 nil down, and we couldn’t have had any complaints. This 1-0 defeat flattered us, diabolical doesn’t come close.
     
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    Did the crowd get announced last night - I don't recall hearing it?
     
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  18. Evington

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    Although McCann deserves some praise for last season, he will take us down again this season. He hasn't got the tactical nous to change what is a very rigid system that will bring little reward in this division with the quality at his disposal. Last night was a throwback to the relegation season.
     
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  19. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

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    i agree, but we had plenty of oppurtunities to go at them on the break but as a team we are just too slow, and too slow getting men forward.
    far too often it ends with KLP on the left, he cuts in and puts in a cross , but there is only Magessnis in the middle agaisnt 3 defenders.
    lack of runners busting a gut to join in or get beyond.
     
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  20. AlRawdah

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    It's been a long time since we've had a proper off-day stinker, some short memories on here. String 3-4 of those performances together and it's a concern, a one-off **** night against a backs-to-the-wall great-escape style opposition? Nah, calm down.

    And for all you meffs wibbling on about there being no Plan B - McCann completely changed the team shape to a Plan B after 30 minutes against QPR and we made loads of chances. He did the same last night, into a Plan C shape, when Eaves came on too.

    Eaves - after his horror first touch, he did alright and actually won some ball in the final third. He's not going to be devastating at this level but he's a useful game changer.
     
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