Summer transfer rumours

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Whether you like it or not, Flanagan, Wright, Younger and Xhemajli are part of the first team and can't be ignored when assessing the squad. Flanagan is clearly 1st choice alongside Doyle. If Wright goes, he will be replaced.

You say Stewart is the "only one up to it" but Grigg and O'Brien are alternative options and the way we play doesn't need a lump like Wyke winning (losing) headers - Grigg and/or O'Brien might well have shown the same movement as Stewart for the penalty although I'd concede neither would have scored the goal Stewart did
Xhemajli isn't going to be in first team until winter. Flannagan won't be starting if a new challenge cones in. It'd a case of needs must at present. You can count Wright and younger as numbers if you want to but neither appear to be going to start league games anytime soon.


Aob and grigg scoring regularly with safc :emoticon-0102-bigsm how many chances do you want to give them.
 
Xhemajli isn't going to be in first team until winter. Flannagan won't be starting if a new challenge cones in. It'd a case of needs must at present. You can count Wright and younger as numbers if you want to but neither appear to be going to start league games anytime soon.


Aob and grigg scoring regularly with safc :emoticon-0102-bigsm how many chances do you want to give them.
Not sure what your argument is. You state we have "1defender and 1 striker" and I corrected you. You then dismiss every other player saying they aren't good enough. What argument are you trying to make?
 
Tend to agree we need recruits mate, but you cant comment that we haven't signed anyone and then use the phrase "Wright is away" to enforce your point, neither of those have happened yet
Many have commented on this so unsure why I can't comment on it. Unless you don't like what I'm saying. If it helps I think he'll only be allowed to leave when we've a replacement signed.
 
You do if their current clubs aren't prepared to let them go yet.

Have any of our competitors signed fullbacks that you wish we'd signed?
There have been a few that have moved I'd have signed yes. There may be some available that we could sign we don't know about too. Just to say we are waiting and def will get them before deadline is blind faith. Nothing so far proves this will happen.
 
We play 1 up front but Stewart I'd the only on up to it. Likewise we've probably only Doyle at the back. Flannagan is accident waiting to happen imo as has been proven in the past. Wrights away. Younger can't get in ahead of 2 midfielders and the rest are injured. Other than that were in great shape though..... I feel if we can get the defence and a competent back up striker with pace we can win this league.

You're right of course,we need a couple of full backs,a central defender and another striker option,and when we get them, the ideal situation for us would be to be able to offload Wright,Grigg and AoB. I haven't seen anyone on here disagree with that. Your argument centres around the timing of all of this....you feel it could and should have been completed much earlier. My argument,and that of others,is that if the club could have done it earlier they would,but,in waiting for the right people to become available,they're taking the sensible,strategic course the club under KLD is clearly on, and I have no doubt that we have some competent people handling this......which is a first for many a year......patience is required, which ,I'm sure,will be rewarded in due course.
Now,if you agree with all of that,please stop rattling on about it,because you're driving everybody nuts!
 
Many have commented on this so unsure why I can't comment on it. Unless you don't like what I'm saying. If it helps I think he'll only be allowed to leave when we've a replacement signed.
No mate, I'm not saying you can't comment. Not sure how to put this. My defence has always been of commenting on where we are now, which you have been doing and is fine. There is no point in debating what might be at the end of the window. Ergo the same applies to the Wright situation, he is a Sunderland player at this moment in time.
 
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Not sure what your argument is. You state we have "1defender and 1 striker" and I corrected you. You then dismiss every other player saying they aren't good enough. What argument are you trying to make?
Stewart and Doyle are the only fit players in squad currently able to fill those positions imo. The others are injured, clearly not up to it or not being trusted to play in younger case. Our squad isn't good enough to go up in its current state. I'm really surprised anyone would argue with that. It's a symptom of the failures of previous owners/staff but one then new team need to put right or risk promotion
 
Talking of cover at the back, any updates on Arby and when he will be fit?

I know we have not seen a lot of him, but his reputation and what we did see pre injury was very promising.

LJ said he was on track,recovery going well,but did not expect to see him until half way through the season iirc. However,I think he may have been playing it down a little and I'm hoping he is able to come back earlier,during the Autumn anyway.
 
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You're right of course,we need a couple of full backs,a central defender and another striker option,and when we get them, the ideal situation for us would be to be able to offload Wright,Grigg and AoB. I haven't seen anyone on here disagree with that. Your argument centres around the timing of all of this....you feel it could and should have been completed much earlier. My argument,and that of others,is that if the club could have done it earlier they would,but,in waiting for the right people to become available,they're taking the sensible,strategic course the club under KLD is clearly on, and I have no doubt that we have some competent people handling this......which is a first for many a year......patience is required, which ,I'm sure,will be rewarded in due course.
Now,if you agree with all of that,please stop rattling on about it,because you're driving everybody nuts!
I'll continue to reply as long as people quote me as is my right on a message board. We've no idea why they haven't gotten players in but as you agree they'd have wanted this earlier somethings not gone to plan and they need to chance tact or risk promotion. It's unlikely we'll get 6 or 7 quality players the rate were going.
 
No mate, I'm not saying you can't comment. Not sure how to put this. My defence has always been of commenting on where we are now, which you have been doing and is fine. There is no point in debating what might be at the end of the window. Ergo the same applies to the Wright situation, he is a Sunderland player at this moment in time.
Can see your point there on wright, fair enough. On the next 3 weeks though many posters stating almost as fact we'll get what we need. It's not certain and ad you've agreed the current situation isn't good enough. Hope we see improvements soon.
 
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I'll continue to reply as long as people quote me as is my right on a message board. We've no idea why they haven't gotten players in but as you agree they'd have wanted this earlier somethings not gone to plan and they need to chance tact or risk promotion. It's unlikely we'll get 6 or 7 quality players the rate were going.

Of course you have the right of reply....I wasn't suggesting otherwise....it's the content of your replies I've an issue with. I've no inside knowledge,but it seems to me that the thing that's not gone to plan is that the preferred targets haven't become available yet. LJ himself said the nature of these things is that it could take 24 hours or 24 days.....many transfer moves have a host of moving parts which have to come together. What do you suggest they change tack to?
 
Can see your point there on wright, fair enough. On the next 3 weeks though many posters stating almost as fact we'll get what we need. It's not certain and ad you've agreed the current situation isn't good enough. Hope we see improvements soon.
Thats my point marra, to be succinct there are no guarantees we will get full backs and likewise there is no guarantee Wright will leave
And we do need improvements. I get that people keep saying we aren't going to make the same mistakes again by buying bodies for the sake of it, however the other option is waiting for better players or "making the same mistakes again" and playing players out of position for a prolonged period. I don't think the club can win, unless they bring in the quality and that is what I am pinning my ever dwindling hopes on
 
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Stewart and Doyle are the only fit players in squad currently able to fill those positions imo. The others are injured, clearly not up to it or not being trusted to play in younger case. Our squad isn't good enough to go up in its current state. I'm really surprised anyone would argue with that. It's a symptom of the failures of previous owners/staff but one then new team need to put right or risk promotion
Yet we played Wigan off the park on Saturday

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Of course you have the right of reply....I wasn't suggesting otherwise....it's the content of your replies I've an issue with. I've no inside knowledge,but it seems to me that the thing that's not gone to plan is that the preferred targets haven't become available yet. LJ himself said the nature of these things is that it could take 24 hours or 24 days.....many transfer moves have a host of moving parts which have to come together. What do you suggest they change tack to?
FFS. Don't give him any more ammo marra <laugh><laugh>
 
Of course you have the right of reply....I wasn't suggesting otherwise....it's the content of your replies I've an issue with. I've no inside knowledge,but it seems to me that the thing that's not gone to plan is that the preferred targets haven't become available yet. LJ himself said the nature of these things is that it could take 24 hours or 24 days.....many transfer moves have a host of moving parts which have to come together. What do you suggest they change tack to?
Well as you say we don't know reasons but if it's a valuation issue we'll need to move as players tend to become more expensive closer to the deadline not less. It could be that those on top of our list aren't going to move. I the case we may need to move elsewhere. We could even look to sign alternatives to get movement on our prime targets. It all depends on how long our list is, I'd expect it nit just to have one player for each position.

If we're waiting around for clubs to say x player is available it's very risky imo as they may choose to keep then past august. We've 2 or 3 positions were desperate for and need more than 1 player for. Take the Liverpool player as an example. Should we have pulled out fir another player as is reported or signed both. A bird in the hand and all that.

Whatever they're doing its not helping the side right now I think we can all agree on that.
 
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Yet we played Wigan off the park on Saturday

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Our defence was poor imo. Especially lb first half. Wigan should have scored more. Going forward I was very happy and saw great improvements. If we can sort a tight back line out I'd be more than confident of promotion.

We started with a decent points return early on last season too iirc.
 
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Thats my point marra, to be succinct there are no guarantees we will get full backs and likewise there is no guarantee Wright will leave
And we do need improvements. I get that people keep saying we aren't going to make the same mistakes again by buying bodies for the sake of it, however the other option is waiting for better players or "making the same mistakes again" and playing players out of position for a prolonged period. I don't think the club can win, unless they bring in the quality and that is what I am pinning my ever dwindling hopes on
True but they risk failure trying to get quality in quantity for little outlay. Other teams can see our squad and will be upping prices as the deadline approaches imo. I know I would in their place.
 
LJ said he was on track,recovery going well,but did not expect to see him until half way through the season iirc. However,I think he may have been playing it down a little and I'm hoping he is able to come back earlier,during the Autumn anyway.
Thought the LJ comment was that we would not see the best of him , until January, which implied that he might be playing before then.
 
There have been a few that have moved I'd have signed yes. There may be some available that we could sign we don't know about too. Just to say we are waiting and def will get them before deadline is blind faith. Nothing so far proves this will happen.
Purely out of curiosity, which ones?
 
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