That's if you believe her story is true, personally I think the only parts that are true is she ****ed Andy and someone paid her £10k for doing it, though I suspect she would've probably done it for free just because of who he is. Try to remember that he's probably one of the world's most famous people for being a royal prince of England and that'll drop the knickers off plenty of female Americans. I've seen how women act around the rich and famous close up and, actually, I won't go all Fosse about it.
I dont understand much of the logic applied to this convo. Your 25 and shagging a 17 year old, youre a nonce. Youre 25 shagging an 18 year old, its sound. Ye putting a tremendous amount of stock in 12 months. My cousin is 19 going on 20 about to move to America for work and looks about 14. I worked with girls 16 and they looked about 19 going on 20. Every single person is different. When i was 17 i had sex with a 29 year old woman. She werent a peado and Id not report the woman i was a consenting adult
What is that supposed to mean? Do they act like slags so that's why it's alright to take advantage? 'above the age of consent, therefore not illegal' - Is that where your moral compass is at? I believe moral values are more important than law.
See I knew this was the issue. Its not age at all, its the thought of an ugly fat man shagging a young girl. The old woman shagging a young boy is not as important, despite identical mindsets from the young person. If the 17 year old girl wants it and there's no coercing or whatever, for me thats morally acceptable. 16 year olds fought in wars.
Nothing to do with looks mate, the issue is more mental. For me at least.. Theres summin predatory about about a 30/40yr old bloke actively looking to bang teenage girls. The thought of a 40yr old woman banging a 17 year old lad just doesn't repulse me as much. Im good with that
One thing's for sure, I don't believe Andrew's story I try to remember that none of this was in isolation. There's a wider context to it all. Epstein and Maxwell were exploiting dozens, probably hundreds of girls, inside Epstein and Maxwell's various homes... where Andrew was a frequent resident guest. Epstein was convicted of soliciting for prostitution a minor (aged 14). He was a convicted sex offender. The idea that Andrew didn't know this or what was going on, or claiming he never met this girl, is completely for the birds. Under those circumstances, plus the fact he's lying, shows this is more about exploitation than consenting adults. And if it's not, then why not go and face the FBI? On the second point about her being given 10k, I honestly have no knowledge of this, but how is that any different to a few of the convicted Rotherham blokes who plied girls with clothes and jewellery, who happened to be over 16? Should they be let off because those gifts were enough to 'drop their knickers'? I'd consider it grooming and exploitation. There needs to be a better understanding of what 'vulnerable young person" means especially for a girl in her teens. I'm not disagreeing on the basis of age difference btw, like I said earlier if it's consensual and without strings attached or coercion or grooming of any kind then I couldn't care less who's shagging who. If that's all there was to it, then why didn't Andrew just take that line? Because he himself knows the wider context and at best he was happy to turn a blind eye to it, and at worst he was a part of it.
So if you are 28, like me, half that age is 14 and then plus 7 = 21. So the youngest I can go with is a 21 year old.